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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right good evening Fade to Black

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bespoke radio for the masses

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yeah today's Monday February 27

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2023 I'm Yours Jimmy church and uh

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here's the deal tonight

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Robert shock is back with us and I've

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titled this show tonight I framed the

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show

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around the secret history of rocks

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yeah and I thought about this a little

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bit uh before I bring Robert in I

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watched again oh man probably I'm 20

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views into everything everywhere all at

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once and not that that has anything to

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do with Robert shock not directly but if

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you haven't seen the film as it as it

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moves along there's a scene uh towards

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the end where mother and daughter who

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have been uh going at it uh throughout

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the entire film are now a couple of

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rocks

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on the edge of a cliff talking to each

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other

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rocks on the edge of the cliff that to

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me that's like this secret history of

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rocks do rocks have Consciousness and I

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thought I'm going to talk to Robin about

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that tonight maybe that should be the

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opening Salvo man that should be the

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first question do rocks have

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Consciousness but um and it just got me

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thinking uh Robert and I

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um have got some things that we're going

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to be doing this year specifically we'll

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talk about this in just a bit uh the

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parapon festival that is coming up on uh

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April 1st almost at August 1st April 1st

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um in just about a month it's going to

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be great to finally hang out with Robert

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and and uh and and get back together

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it's been a while since we have seen

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each other and so that's coming up here

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very quickly but uh let's get straight

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to it he is of course a full-time

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faculty member the College of General

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Studies at Boston University it's been

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doing that since 1984. got his PhD in

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geology and geophysics from Yale

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University got a couple of more degrees

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he's got more letters after his name

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than just about anybody I know all right

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so we got a couple more degrees uh from

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Yale as well as George Washington

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University but of course it was in the

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early 1990s with uh John Anthony West

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that they

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redated the Sphinx and this tipped over

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history

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professionals Academia and and everybody

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um in in those circles around the world

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that have looked at the Sphinx and of

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course the Giza plateau and the Great

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Pyramid uh in a different way for for

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millennia and all of that changed uh in

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1992. now here's uh the deal he

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I think it's been his mission

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to reveal to the world that everything

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is much older than we think and if

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that's the case then

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does anybody know the truth and have we

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been lied to about this well we're going

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to find out about all of that and much

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more as I welcome back to the show The

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One and Only the Troublemaker a true

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rock star

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Dr Robert shock

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you're a true rock star man well thank

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you thank you that was a great

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introduction

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you know I I like to improvise my

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introductions uh Robert and and you're

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no stranger to that but but everything

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is from the heart you know and and I I

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really appreciate our friendship that

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has developed over the years and and uh

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you know just just thank you thank you

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for all that you've done and I'm just

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excited to have you back on the show how

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have you been thank you thank you I I'm

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doing well I'm doing very well uh glad

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that Kobe is now coming to an end we can

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start doing presentations to start doing

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things in person again I'm planning to

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travel back to Egypt I know you just

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were in Egypt so you've now now finally

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seen Egypt

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yeah uh that's coming up next man and I

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appreciate the invite uh maybe we'll

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talk about that in in just a bit because

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I'll be going to Turkey in um Wednesday

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August yeah if other people are

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interested they should come to my

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website and take a you know find out the

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information and uh we've got the links

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it's robertshock.com the links are below

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we've got them in social media you know

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what I miss

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it's great I've got so many of those and

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there's some of my most favorite moments

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of the two of us you ready Jimmy I'm

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ready Robert you ready go

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um I actually stepped above the selfie

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hey we need to think of a name of it I

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know we need to name that process

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yeah yeah okay chat room let's let the

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chat room name it what Robert and I are

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talking about is okay this started like

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and I caught Robert taking a picture of

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me I grabbed my camera and took a

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picture of him taking a picture of me uh

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taking a picture of him and so we've

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done we did this at um all the events uh

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together uh that that followed that

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moment but you're right it's the reverse

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selfie so what would be the name so yeah

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let's name that process now that you

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guys know what's going on maybe uh later

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on in the show uh I'll find one of us

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doing that and I'll I'll pop it up there

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but yeah we need a name we need a name

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for it all right let's get things

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sense yeah if we go back to 1992 and

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think about the significance of your

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presentation in San Diego and how that

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changed everything from that day forward

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certainly not only in our community but

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around the world and it was it was a big

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deal specifically talking about the

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re-dating of these things so if we push

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this back and we can pick a round number

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let's just pick a round number 10 000 BC

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all right say just an easy number we can

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get to specifics if you want but let's

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say that we go to 10 000 BC

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who was around

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before that because we can redate and

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suggest all of this uh you know with the

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evidence that's out there but we have to

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now have a technically Advanced

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civilization that predated everything

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else yeah so so who did who was around

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um give you much more information

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this a little bit we have very very good

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evidence for 10 000 BC just using round

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people going back to an earlier period

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that ties in with um people can remember

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the quebecley Tempe people but really

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Indo-European root of something

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predecessors of a later development or

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well-developed highly sophisticated

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technological if you want to use that

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term civilization that

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really brought down about 9 700 BC at

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the end of the last ice age so how far

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back it goes we really don't know we

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that's really goes back to what you were

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Sphinx and that the origins of the

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Sphinx go back to a much much earlier

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period I'm convinced that the origins of

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sphinx go back round numbers 10 000 BC

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maybe even a bit earlier the Beckley

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Cafe was confirmation is confirmation of

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what I was talking about I wished I'd

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had Quebec Lee Tepe when I first started

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talking about the swings and you know it

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was a tough road it was a tough it was a

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tough road it was a tough road and if

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you go back let's stay right here for a

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second I don't want to get off of this

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uh part of the conversation it's too

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important to stress uh especially for

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those that may not be totally familiar

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with the timing of the events right so

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um in 1992

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um without naming names but you do you

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do a presentation in in San Diego which

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meets every year professional geologists

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and and and so forth and you guys get

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together and you guys talk rocks right

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so at this at this conference

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you uh presented your findings on the

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Sphinx now this is what happened at that

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conference then which

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addressing what you just said which was

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the comments were made to you

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I'm paraphrasing

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show us anything before 3000 BC and then

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we can have a conversation

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things uh the chronology a little bit uh

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more accurate I actually but but let me

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let me say let me say this though see

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you're you're too black and white and

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pragmatic and to the point this is about

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the conference

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friends can interrupt each other right

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absolutely absolutely I'll interrupt you

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in a few minutes too but here's the

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thing so as this was suggested to you

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what nobody knew at that conference at

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that time was that in three more years

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Cloud Schmidt and Gobekli Tepe do the

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big reveal to the world and it didn't

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only predate Egypt uh or the Giza

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Plateau at 3000 BC but uh by a hundred

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000 years Dr Jacques and so when that

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went down if you would have had that

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same information back in 1992 it would

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it would have been a different

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conference or do you think that that

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these minds are so fixated in the Dogma

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that it might not have changed things I

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was uh about to say is that there were

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actually two conferences so I don't want

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to conflate them too much there was a

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conference in 1991 at the Geological

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Society of America just

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um Geological Society of America that

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was late 1991 and I present the raw data

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the geological data at that time the

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vast majority of Egypt um vast majority

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of geologists were fine with what I was

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saying but they don't have any real

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vested interest in it it was the

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egyptologists that got wind of it and

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the quote

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geo-archaeologists who basically were

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Hired Hands for egyptologists they're

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the ones that went live it they went

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ballistic about it and that was a very

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small minority at the conference in late

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1991 and what they did is they then

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organized at the American Association

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for the advancement of science a quote

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debate on the

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um Sphinx the age of the Sphinx which is

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what you're referring to now and it was

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at that conference where all the

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egyptologists came out and all the um

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you know should we say the other side

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who had a vested interest in in the

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topic have real best interest in the

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topic because they base their careers on

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how old Egypt and the Sphinx was

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etc etc and it was at that conference

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that they went ballistic and livid and

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started calling me a pseudoscientist

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throwing accusations against me saying

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that there's no evidence of civilization

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before around 3 000 maybe 3 500 4

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000 uh BCE but certainly not at the time

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period I was talking about and at that

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point I was even happy to say well maybe

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the Sphinx is only five thousand to

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seven thousand BCE uh not even ten

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thousand and I was trying to be you know

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in hindsight yeah well you know assuage

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them a little bit but didn't matter they

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were totally livid so I just want to

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make that there's make the point that

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there's a huge distinction there was a

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huge distinction between the

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straightforward geologists who didn't

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really care about this Banks and just

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looked at the evidence and at that time

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I did not let me back up at that time

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some of the geologists even in late 1991

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suggested to me based on the raw data

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that maybe I was actually

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underestimating the origins of the

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Sphinx not overestimating how far back

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it went that maybe it was actually

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underestimating a bit and I'm now

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convinced of that and that should go

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back to the end of the last ice age

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based on a wealth of data that I have

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and you're absolutely right quebecley

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Tepe no one knew about Quebec Lee Cafe

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in 1991 1992. it wasn't until 1995 that

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Klaus Schmitz class Schmidt who

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unfortunate is unfortunately is deceased

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now Klaus Schmidt started Excavating and

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it didn't really come out until a few

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years later in fact a number of years

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later because you start Excavating you

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don't announce it right away you didn't

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have everything done right away because

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it's a huge site much of it still has to

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be excavated so you know these things

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take time but would it have been

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different if

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if quebeckley Cafe had been known in

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1992 it's really difficult to say except

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that I'm convinced I could not have said

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exactly what they said to me they could

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have tried to downplay go back later

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they could have said well you know it's

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not quite so sophisticated as you claim

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which is sort of what they're saying now

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they try to downplay and try to fit it

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into the cookie cutter Dogma

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um that they've had since

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the early 20th century 100 year old

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Dogma yeah I feel that they're still in

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denial about Gobekli tapi I'm not I'm

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not so sure why you know the the now

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Infamous video of zahiwas and and Graham

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Hancock where zahi goes what go Beckley

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Tempe I'd never heard of any right

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egyptologist I mean even even the

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um in Turkey they sort of dumb it down a

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little bit when you go to the irfa

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museum and I I love turkey and I love

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what they're doing and I think they're

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doing a great job except that you have

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the I'll call the National Geographic

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view which takes a really conventional

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view confuses conflates things sort of

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dumbs it down oh they're Hunter gathers

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um oh they were building these rough

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stone walls between the pillars but in

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fact those rough stone walls are

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secondary structures that they were

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building when it was a time of disaster

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it sort of judging someone by

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um uh you know quick fortifications or

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quick um uh structures you throw up

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during a natural catastrophe yeah

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something that you have to virtually

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overnight it's not going to have the

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sophistication

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um but uh going back to uh your point

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you know in the denial like you know

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zahihai was and you can say what you

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want about zahi the video still stands

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you know uh at that time when that video

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was shot

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believe me yeah yeah put it in context

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because you know he said Egyptian

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politician as well as uh egyptologist

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he's trying to keep his funding and so

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they were so used to you know this goes

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back to probably started with Napoleon

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um in that uh Egypt became you know that

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was the dawning of a real egyptology uh

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when Napoleon showed up there and

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started trying to do some real research

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there and dating things but but Egypt

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was kind of singular where they owned

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they owned the tourism trade right they

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had they had the lock on history and

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they they really don't want that uh that

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that image that where they are that

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privilege to be you know pointed in

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another Direction in a way from uh Egypt

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and that's exactly what go back to Lee

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tappy does yeah I I think there's

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um developing competition now between

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Egypt and turkey if I could put it that

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way and I'm not saying it's a bad thing

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and to be blunt if anyone wants to see

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the uh Ancient Wonders going back to

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that really early period they need to go

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to Egypt they need to see Egypt but they

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need to see turkey also yeah yeah and

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that goes with that that goes with Iraq

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you know large chunks of Syria uh as

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well Jordan you know there there are uh

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can't leave off Athens you know we're

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good to go to Syria right now as a

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tourist probably yeah not a good idea

430
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not a good idea but

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um uh so when I this is this is what

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happened to me when

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when you go you hear everything like I

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have done in many interviews with you on

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this subject and and so forth so when

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you go to Egypt and and you get to see

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this for yourself you're trying to

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visualize and connect the dots on the

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information that you've been collecting

440
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over the years you want to see these

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things right firsthand but the one thing

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that I notice I mean it just sticks out

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you can go to all of the sites around

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Egypt and you get a feel for their

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construction and their age you just kind

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of get a feel for it because you see so

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much of it when you go to Giza and you

448
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look around you can see there are

449
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pockets of Giza that are friggin really

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old right that don't match up with the

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other stuff that you're looking at and

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the Sphinx enclosure is it's like

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staring at you in the face it doesn't

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match it's like it's like two different

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socks well it's it's very interesting

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because you're saying that and that's

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the impression a lot of people have and

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independent are

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despite what modern egyptologists have

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been talking about and when I say modern

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egyptologists I'm talking from about

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1930s on 1920s on so the last hundred

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years when you go back and you actually

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look at some of the classical

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egyptologists of the very very early

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20th century and earlier so 19th century

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um even the first Napoleon Expeditions

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Etc but especially the 19th century and

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just going into the 20th century so well

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over a hundred years ago primarily a lot

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of them actually commented and said

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exactly what you're saying now and a lot

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of them actually believed that they

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didn't have a good strong basis for it

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because they didn't know the geology

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that we know now they didn't know the

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climatic conditions and how it's changed

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in North Africa but they just had a

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sense that both the weathering in the

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deterioration the erosion of the Sphinx

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and Associated structures was different

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than what you see other way elsewhere in

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Egypt and different than what you see in

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later well-defined well-dated by

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hieroglyphic inscriptions tombs and

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whatnot right on the Giza Plateau so

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there was a weathering erosion

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deterioration aspect and the second

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aspect that they noticed and I've built

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upon some what's a classic thing you

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build upon uh the shoulders of giants or

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whatever but early egyptologists were

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really good and the second thing they

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noticed is that the architectural style

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of the Sphinx Temple the valley Temple

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and also parts of the mortuary Temple of

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the second pyramid are very very

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different than what you see otherwise

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they're made of huge blocks that are

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tens of tons you know 50 tons or more a

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lot of those block this is stylistically

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very different than what you have for

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much of Egypt layer yes you have a huge

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Omegle lists you have huge monuments

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that type of thing but between the size

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so it's not just size but the size the

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style the lack of inscriptions on much

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of you know a lot of these big blocks

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for instance Sphinx Temple the valley

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Temple

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they noticed right away yeah there's

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something amidst there seems to be a

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discrepancy on both counts and they were

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not afraid to suggest that maybe some of

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these structures went back earlier that

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all changed in the

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by the

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end of the first quarter of the 20th

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century I would say when quote modern

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egyptology started moving in and they

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just uh attributed the Sphinx to copra

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who's the builder of the second pyramid

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on the basis that oh yeah the Sphinx

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sits in front of the second pyramid sits

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due east of the second pyramid so it

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must be the same are the same

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conceptions same plan a Saleem Hassan

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who was one of the great egyptologists

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of say the 20s 30s 40s he suggested that

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but he was not particularly dogmatic

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about it initially

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but things get suggested as a

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possibility and then they become the

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Dogma so that's what we were living with

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and that's what I've had to face this um

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which are really quite recent yeah well

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you know most of the Dogma most of the

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history that we deal with today that's

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even taught we're talking this is not uh

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this is this is a modern interpretation

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from the British and the French and

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others uh from the late 19th you know

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Century

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going in and collecting this and that's

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what it went into the history books yeah

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and it was just established very early

547
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,980
on and hasn't changed much has it no it

548
00:26:06,289 --> 00:26:04,080
really hasn't and and you're right A lot

549
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:06,299
of it is sort of um and some people tie

550
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:08,580
a lot of it is from the British and

551
00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:11,700
French who were very dominant in Egypt

552
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,799
and often are for a long time

553
00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:15,840
essentially ran the Antiquities

554
00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:18,419
organization what is now

555
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,279
now I use that term loosely because I

556
00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:22,559
had different uh names for the ministry

557
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,860
Etc and for a long time it was not

558
00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:28,080
Egyptians native Egyptians that were

559
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:31,860
doing this so it was very difficult

560
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:34,440
um where the ancient for the actual

561
00:26:39,169 --> 00:26:37,140
Egyptians to even take hold of their own

562
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,179
history and I think that they're very

563
00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:41,760
sensitive about that rightfully so up to

564
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:45,620
this day so it's important that

565
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,679
Egyptians actually get involved in their

566
00:26:53,890 --> 00:26:51,360
own history which they're doing now so

567
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:53,900
right now it's dominated by Egyptian

568
00:27:00,890 --> 00:26:57,000
egyptologists and that's important but

569
00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:00,900
it ties in with how they treat it how

570
00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:03,900
they um think about their history how

571
00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:06,419
they want it to be Egyptian I've been

572
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:10,440
accused of stealing uh Egypt or Egyptian

573
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,360
history from the Egyptians and I think

574
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:15,120
that's crazy it doesn't make sense to me

575
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,940
because when I talk about the origins of

576
00:27:22,669 --> 00:27:19,919
the Sphinx going back to earlier period

577
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,679
to me that enhances Egyptian history

578
00:27:28,909 --> 00:27:25,679
that gives it all the more depth and

579
00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:28,919
time to me that's a wonderful thing it's

580
00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:30,900
not stealing it from the Egyptians I'm

581
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:32,760
not saying that someone else came and

582
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,000
built it and then left again if they

583
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:38,159
were in Egypt to me they were Egyptians

584
00:27:44,269 --> 00:27:41,760
they were early Egyptians all right can

585
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:44,279
I ask you okay was I just want to make

586
00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:46,200
the point because not everyone is

587
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:47,820
familiar with all this that we're

588
00:27:54,049 --> 00:27:51,000
talking about you and I and it's easy

589
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:54,059
because you know we know things and we

590
00:27:58,610 --> 00:27:55,980
assume things but for the general

591
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:58,620
audience if they haven't heard me talk

592
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:00,179
about this before I want to make the

593
00:28:05,149 --> 00:28:02,400
point the head of the Sphinx is not the

594
00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:05,159
original head that is a later head it's

595
00:28:09,549 --> 00:28:07,020
a later recarving

596
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:09,559
uh can I ask you a spiritual question

597
00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:12,720
sure okay

598
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,200
um I had a few pretty powerful

599
00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:18,720
experiences at some different temples I

600
00:28:22,669 --> 00:28:20,580
wasn't looking for it stuff just

601
00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:22,679
happened when you least expect it okay

602
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,460
so putting all that aside this is uh not

603
00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:28,559
some spiritual show or Journey about

604
00:28:33,010 --> 00:28:30,360
that stuff tonight we can do that later

605
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:33,020
if you want but

606
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,460
the Sphinx

607
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,279
is powerful

608
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:40,080
when I went

609
00:28:46,669 --> 00:28:44,580
um uh when I I was able to spend some

610
00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:46,679
time with it go up and touch it and

611
00:28:51,769 --> 00:28:47,940
observe it

612
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,779
uh this close like you have and there's

613
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,419
something there you can feel there's

614
00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:57,600
something very powerful about this

615
00:29:01,310 --> 00:28:58,919
things

616
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:01,320
when I went inside the Greek pyramid

617
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:10,430
the opposite it was really strange for

618
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:14,039
me where I was my expectations uh were

619
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:16,020
different I thought

620
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:17,880
um that the Sphinx was gonna do its

621
00:29:22,669 --> 00:29:20,520
thing but then I was gonna go inside of

622
00:29:26,690 --> 00:29:22,679
uh different pyramids and specifically

623
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,700
the Great Pyramid and no it didn't

624
00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:28,320
didn't happen in the in the Great

625
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:29,880
Pyramid

626
00:29:38,269 --> 00:29:34,080
um do you get the same vibe off of the

627
00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:38,279
Sphinx oh that I have well yeah I mean I

628
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:42,179
have for over 30 years yeah

629
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:44,520
some people if I when someone even told

630
00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:46,500
me I'd look like the Sphinx yeah you

631
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:48,020
kind of do actually

632
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,220
although I think of the Sphinx as a

633
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:52,559
female and it's not the original head

634
00:29:57,049 --> 00:29:55,020
um it was a lioness I'm absolutely

635
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,059
convinced based on the evidence now it

636
00:30:01,970 --> 00:29:59,039
was a female lion originally which has

637
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:01,980
been recarved in dynastic time probably

638
00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:05,580
very early dynastic times to be

639
00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:07,559
the Sphinx that we know the human face

640
00:30:13,490 --> 00:30:10,679
but I'd want to comment yeah I get um

641
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:13,500
you can't help but feel it in Egypt

642
00:30:18,909 --> 00:30:15,930
unless you're soulless or something

643
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:18,919
[Laughter]

644
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,399
can you imagine somebody is so

645
00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:26,220
so soulless that they go and walk around

646
00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,059
Egypt and go man you know I got nothing

647
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,460
remember uh because I do tours to Egypt

648
00:30:36,409 --> 00:30:34,559
sometimes and I will be doing the copper

649
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:36,419
plug-in here I will be doing one this

650
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:38,520
coming May and you've been there and

651
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,039
you're going back too I once had a a

652
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,159
woman uh yeah I think a verse a young

653
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:47,279
woman she's probably in her 30s and she

654
00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:50,820
was so intent on um you know happy and

655
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,100
subcast spiritual Revelation or

656
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:56,399
something in Egypt and uh I see you

657
00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:58,200
can't really Force these things you know

658
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,080
you can't I can't make that happen for

659
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:03,840
you and I tried to like really

660
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,960
um lower expectations if you could if I

661
00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:08,399
could

662
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:09,539
um because you know I'm not going to

663
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,460
promise a spiritual Rebel they share

664
00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:13,440
something I know a lot of people do and

665
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,960
I'm not mentioning names I'm not bad

666
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:18,480
about anyone but to me it just has to

667
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:21,600
happen if it happens and but I was in my

668
00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:23,340
mind a little bit worried oh you know

669
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:25,700
she's going to be disappointed etc etc

670
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:28,020
and she had

671
00:31:35,149 --> 00:31:30,779
on you know she just found it and she

672
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:35,159
was so moved at so many sites and she

673
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:38,399
thanked me so much afterwards she had

674
00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:41,880
been well beyond her expectations and

675
00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:44,520
you know to me that was a wonderful

676
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:46,860
thing and I find that

677
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:50,399
um with so many people yeah I mean you

678
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,360
can't not be moved we can't because and

679
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,159
a lot of times people expect it at the

680
00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:58,080
Great Pyramid they think though you know

681
00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:01,020
the king's chamber that's a favorite one

682
00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:03,179
King's chamber doesn't do that much for

683
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,440
me

684
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:07,200
um but you know what you know what uh

685
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:10,020
happened uh let me ask you about this so

686
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:13,460
we go to dendara all right

687
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:16,740
it's incredible anyway so you know do

688
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,679
the thing and I'll walk out and uh to

689
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:21,360
take a little break I go out of the main

690
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:25,440
Temple uh doorway and I'm sitting over

691
00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:28,559
here on some blocks and one after

692
00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:30,840
another as I'm sitting there I'm just

693
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:32,100
talking to some people and there was a

694
00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:33,600
documentary film crew there and we're

695
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,620
doing you know we're doing some stuff

696
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,200
and um anyway

697
00:32:42,649 --> 00:32:39,840
one after another Robert somebody

698
00:32:44,409 --> 00:32:42,659
they're pulling people out in tears

699
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,419
right

700
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,279
and having to sit down calm down it's

701
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:50,640
okay and I turned it happened you know

702
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:53,580
by the third time I was like okay what's

703
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,360
going on so I I said what happened I

704
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:00,720
just I just I okay it was beautiful

705
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:04,380
right it was one after another people

706
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:08,520
crawling out of dinera uh weeping and

707
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:11,159
did it did you have an experience why

708
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:14,159
why I know it's a feminine Temple it is

709
00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:16,740
a feminine chapter no I I it's one of my

710
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:18,659
favorite temples actually it's actually

711
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:22,140
very interesting um we both well I don't

712
00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:23,519
know how well you knew him John Anthony

713
00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:25,860
West you know him personally how well

714
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:31,909
we used to talk about the Temple of

715
00:33:38,690 --> 00:33:35,279
dendura or dundera uh because it's uh

716
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:38,700
essentially the Temple of hattor uh the

717
00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:40,740
people think of it as like the mother

718
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:43,260
goddess say how head that type of thing

719
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:46,799
very nurturing it was essentially in at

720
00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:49,140
least uh late ancient times served like

721
00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:51,659
a hospital or sanitarium it was a place

722
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:54,659
where people went to heal to be nurtured

723
00:34:02,450 --> 00:33:59,519
to um develop uh uh incubation which is

724
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:02,460
essentially dream and you know things

725
00:34:07,549 --> 00:34:05,220
happen to you you you receive knowledge

726
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:07,559
that type of thing

727
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:08,159
um

728
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:11,879
so it's a very powerful uh place for

729
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:15,119
many people I I've always felt very very

730
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:18,119
comfortable there I I love that site and

731
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,679
I brought up John Anthony West because

732
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,359
he and I would used to talk about he

733
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:24,000
didn't like it at all he got a very bad

734
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:25,980
feeling for it

735
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:28,800
um is that right no I he didn't he

736
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,300
that's why he said maybe I shouldn't say

737
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:32,520
this but he's I think he wouldn't mind

738
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,740
me saying yeah I mean he wasn't saying

739
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:36,720
he would take people there and he people

740
00:34:42,649 --> 00:34:39,419
loved it but he himself

741
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,659
had a very different sense of it and my

742
00:34:47,869 --> 00:34:44,639
point here is not that that's bad or

743
00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:47,879
good that he was right or wrong but it's

744
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:50,099
sort of like the temples and the sites

745
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,440
have personalities and different people

746
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:54,480
like different personalities they get

747
00:35:00,410 --> 00:34:58,260
along with different ones uh and it

748
00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:00,420
wasn't the personality that he got along

749
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,240
with that well I mean was it horrible

750
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:05,760
for him but he wasn't all

751
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,220
he wasn't as fond of it should we say as

752
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:11,460
I am yeah yeah you're right about that

753
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,220
and and where you have these massive

754
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:17,520
destinations for people uh specifically

755
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:21,240
Karnak and Luxor uh for for reasons I

756
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:24,720
understand I I get it I get I do but

757
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:28,680
when you go to uh abdos

758
00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:31,380
or you go to dendara

759
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,060
um these and they're off the beaten path

760
00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:35,520
I mean you that you have to plan those

761
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:39,420
trips it's it's difficult to get to but

762
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,040
um the the vibrations that are there

763
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:46,560
are really strong you can tell that

764
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:48,780
these were very very special style and

765
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:51,180
also the Temple of Isis is is pretty

766
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:55,560
incredible on uh finally filet filet

767
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,079
yeah uh but that's been moved

768
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,240
you know that's been moved because of

769
00:36:06,589 --> 00:36:02,880
the Aswan High Dam where it was

770
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:06,599
originally has uh is underwater so the

771
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:09,000
whole Temple was moved which is a a

772
00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:10,980
modern

773
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:13,980
feat of engineering it's incredible just

774
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:18,420
like they moved um uh Abu symbol uh up

775
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,920
to Higher Grounds so I mean the

776
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,320
Egyptians have done modern Egyptians

777
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:25,200
have had done some incredible Feats uh

778
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:28,260
moving these temples and this gets

779
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:31,740
moving temples Etc I think something has

780
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:34,140
been lost at fillet I think something's

781
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:36,240
been lost at the Isis Temple because

782
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:38,760
it's no longer in its original site and

783
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,240
again I'm not putting it down everyone's

784
00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:44,400
who has a chance to visit should visit

785
00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:47,880
it's an incredible Temple it still has a

786
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:49,079
lot of

787
00:36:58,430 --> 00:36:55,440
should we say just for lack of a better

788
00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:58,440
term but I'm actually convinced that you

789
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,020
can't necessarily create a sacred site

790
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:04,079
that a site has to be sacred unto itself

791
00:37:09,370 --> 00:37:06,780
and that's where they locate the temples

792
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:09,380
when they found these sacred sites

793
00:37:16,030 --> 00:37:13,200
so you can't just plop a temple down

794
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:16,040
anywhere and think that it's going to

795
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:19,380
have that level of spirituality or that

796
00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:22,859
level of moving people and there's

797
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:25,980
probably rational reasons for this uh I

798
00:37:30,609 --> 00:37:28,260
don't like it too academic or whatnot

799
00:37:34,270 --> 00:37:30,619
but it probably has to do with local

800
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:34,280
geomagnetics and and uh

801
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:37,680
energy and I think a lot of it actually

802
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:40,859
may do have to do with where you had

803
00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:42,900
plasma strikes from a similar Outburst

804
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,140
at the end of the last ice age literally

805
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:47,579
so something that I've been looking at

806
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,640
recently is the Giza plateau and you

807
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:53,280
have evidence of vitrification um which

808
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,740
would indicate a plasma strike you have

809
00:38:00,410 --> 00:37:58,320
the ancient Egyptians talking about how

810
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:00,420
the Sphinx was hit by a quote

811
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:03,000
Thunderbolt now this would not have been

812
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:06,480
a modern atmospheric Thunderbolt I think

813
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:08,700
it's something that goes back to the

814
00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:09,420
very

815
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:14,820
origins of the specs what what are you

816
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:17,700
suggesting this can what I'm suggesting

817
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,619
is that you can have certain sites where

818
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:22,079
you have let's call just anomalies

819
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:23,700
geomagnetic

820
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:28,260
um uh genuine anomalies that can affect

821
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,040
subtle Consciousness levels that type of

822
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:34,800
thing I'll give you another example

823
00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:36,900
um I think it all ties in and I don't

824
00:38:42,050 --> 00:38:38,280
want to sound too

825
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:42,060
you know crazy or this is a lot to serve

826
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,700
no I mean it's a lot to digest but I'm

827
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:46,800
trying to summarize something very

828
00:38:50,569 --> 00:38:49,320
quickly so I can't really convince

829
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:50,579
people who are going to be super

830
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:52,619
skeptical about this

831
00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:56,760
um but very subtle electromagnetic

832
00:39:01,609 --> 00:38:59,640
influences have a huge

833
00:39:03,609 --> 00:39:01,619
effect on us

834
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,619
in terms of Consciousness

835
00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:06,240
subconsciousness that type of thing just

836
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:09,060
like um audio sound

837
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:13,440
has an effect and even ultrasound that

838
00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:16,440
type of thing can affect us and people

839
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:20,060
don't realize this necessarily they um

840
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,820
uh yeah we're bombarded all the time by

841
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:25,920
um electromagnetic fields our official

842
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:27,900
electromagnetic fields which I think is

843
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:30,900
super unhealthy and when you go to some

844
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,359
of these uh ancient sites you get away

845
00:39:36,849 --> 00:39:35,820
from that a little bit you get into a

846
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:36,859
different

847
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:40,380
electromagnetic and uh

848
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,619
environment which I think is very

849
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:45,839
cleansing and affects people and I'm

850
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,420
saying in a positive way so I was going

851
00:39:53,329 --> 00:39:50,400
to give the example of the Great Pyramid

852
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,339
the place that to me the place to me

853
00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:55,200
that's the quote most spiritual if we

854
00:40:00,050 --> 00:39:57,300
want to use that term and you can Define

855
00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:00,060
spiritual how you like but people sort

856
00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:04,260
of know it when they experience it

857
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:07,800
is down in the Subterranean chamber when

858
00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:10,800
you're down in the very depths of the

859
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,060
pyramid you're in the solid Bedrock your

860
00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:18,720
underground and to me that is really the

861
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:22,380
essence in the core of the experience in

862
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:24,540
the Great Pyramid and at that point

863
00:40:31,569 --> 00:40:27,240
because you're enveloped in so much

864
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:31,579
solid rock it filters out all kinds of

865
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:34,740
extraneous electromagnetic magnetic

866
00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:37,020
waves essentially all you get are things

867
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:39,960
like shuben resonances which are really

868
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,380
healthy and invigorating

869
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:46,320
for the human psycheat in their studies

870
00:40:50,890 --> 00:40:49,140
I believe too that demonstrate that so

871
00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:50,900
these are very

872
00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:53,720
long wavelength

873
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:57,960
frequencies that essentially

874
00:41:03,890 --> 00:41:01,440
are compatible with or synchronized with

875
00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:03,900
the classic brain waves that people

876
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:06,440
think about

877
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,490
but I think there's real reasons for

878
00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:15,359
this well you're not gonna you're not

879
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,160
going to lose your job over it so you

880
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,680
can you can continue down we can go to

881
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:21,780
full crazy town tonight if you want I

882
00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:23,160
don't know it's not crazy at all that's

883
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,020
my point but it's hard to make the

884
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:27,839
argument you know and a little

885
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:30,300
conversation like this sure sure but let

886
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:32,099
me let me ask you this now and I know

887
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:34,020
this is speculative

888
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:35,119
um but

889
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:39,599
the underground chamber also suggests to

890
00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:43,320
me a different era of construction there

891
00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:45,000
the the underground chamber is not the

892
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:46,619
Queen's chamber it's certainly not the

893
00:41:51,490 --> 00:41:48,599
grand Gallery it's not the it's a

894
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:51,500
totally different do you is it possible

895
00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:54,800
I'm just saying is it possible

896
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,420
that it was there before they built or

897
00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:01,680
even thought about building the Great

898
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:04,500
Pyramid and made an underground chamber

899
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:07,440
was the was constructed by the same

900
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,800
people that that uh originally built the

901
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,960
Sphinx I don't know if it was the same

902
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:14,579
people who originally built the Sphinx

903
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,000
but I have certainly speculated that the

904
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:20,400
reason the Great Pyramid is where it is

905
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,980
is because there was something there

906
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:26,339
which the impairment was built over and

907
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:28,320
that included the underground chamber

908
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,500
and it may be something that I and Katie

909
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:33,540
Katie is my wife for the people who

910
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:34,920
don't know that

911
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:38,640
um Katie and I have discussed at length

912
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:41,880
is that it looks like Giza and I was

913
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:43,380
alluding to this already with the

914
00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:46,260
vitrification and the ancient Egyptians

915
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:48,420
talking about how the Sphinx was hit by

916
00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:51,599
a thunderbolt more or less lightning or

917
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,460
what I would call plasma strike

918
00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:55,680
electrically charged particles movement

919
00:43:01,069 --> 00:42:59,160
incredibly High energies and with

920
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:01,079
Incredible intensity that you would get

921
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:03,720
during major solar outbursts which I

922
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,060
believe all the evidence suggests

923
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:08,640
happened at the end of last ice age

924
00:43:13,849 --> 00:43:12,060
where we have the Great Pyramid and I

925
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:13,859
think the other two pyramids may

926
00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:16,020
actually be points where you had a

927
00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:19,020
plasma strike where it hit ground there

928
00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:21,780
it literally could be seen as a sun

929
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:24,780
which was equated with God for the

930
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:28,200
ancient Egyptians or a god Ra and many

931
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:31,560
other uh uh ancient people you know

932
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:34,500
essentially sun solar deities that type

933
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:36,420
of thing this would literally be

934
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:39,480
touching down and um

935
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:43,740
causing this to be sacred ground and may

936
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:46,740
have caused um what was essentially the

937
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:50,099
Forerunner of that chamber underneath

938
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,319
the current

939
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:54,960
Great Pyramid I don't believe the Great

940
00:44:02,089 --> 00:43:57,839
Pyramid was all built at one time in 20

941
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:02,099
years by the Pharaoh uh Khufu or chiops

942
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:03,960
depending on how you would pronounce it

943
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:06,060
Khufu some more common pronunciation

944
00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:09,060
nowadays among people uh no I don't buy

945
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:12,200
that at all uh I think he was uh

946
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:14,700
restoring something do I think that the

947
00:44:20,530 --> 00:44:16,920
Great Pyramid was used in dynastic times

948
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:20,540
in the third millennium BC you know 25

949
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:24,960
2600 BC yes but do I think it originated

950
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:28,079
then no so in answer your question I

951
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:30,060
think the first thing was a sacred Mound

952
00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:33,300
and the sacred Mound is still to be seen

953
00:44:38,210 --> 00:44:35,880
there but this pyramid is standing on

954
00:44:41,329 --> 00:44:38,220
top of it I've spoken with a number of

955
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,339
Engineers uh who say no if you really

956
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:43,680
want to build a pyramid you don't build

957
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,760
it over uh Mound or more or less Bedrock

958
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:50,520
Mound you would flatten the entire

959
00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:55,380
surface again nice level feel to it then

960
00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:57,720
you would start building it up etc etc

961
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,880
no they were preserving something they

962
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,680
were building on something

963
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:03,839
that was already there which I do

964
00:45:09,770 --> 00:45:07,619
believe included that uh chamber

965
00:45:12,589 --> 00:45:09,780
that's now known as the Subterranean

966
00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:12,599
chamber of the pit and when you go down

967
00:45:18,109 --> 00:45:15,660
there it's it's to me it's incredible

968
00:45:20,569 --> 00:45:18,119
it's the most incredible aspect of the

969
00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:20,579
Great Pyramid or what we now call the

970
00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:23,099
Great Pyramid just to give you another

971
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:25,560
example two other examples can I do two

972
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:28,619
other examples this is the Robert shock

973
00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:32,099
show I'm just here okay I don't want

974
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:33,960
monopolize too much

975
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,180
um but if you go to the second pyramid

976
00:45:41,329 --> 00:45:38,640
and Jimmy I don't know if you noticed

977
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:41,339
this or if anyone pointed out what does

978
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,380
the second pyramid have the Coffer

979
00:45:46,849 --> 00:45:45,119
so-called copper pyramid but I'll just

980
00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:46,859
call it the second pyramid which is

981
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:49,079
almost as big as the Great Pyramid but

982
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:51,180
doesn't have its main known Chambers in

983
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:52,560
it although we don't know if there's

984
00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:53,940
other chambers that haven't been

985
00:46:01,309 --> 00:45:57,900
discovered but the second Pyramid has a

986
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,319
band of granite around the base so it

987
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:03,780
actually has a ring of red I asked one

988
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:06,540
Granite around the base and what this

989
00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:09,900
indicates I'm convinced is that the

990
00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:14,280
ancient dynastic Egyptians marked it as

991
00:46:19,329 --> 00:46:17,640
a structure that they were refurbishing

992
00:46:22,430 --> 00:46:19,339
that they were

993
00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:22,440
reworking from some older structure

994
00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:25,380
because that's something that they often

995
00:46:31,069 --> 00:46:28,380
did was Mark with granite

996
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,079
and when they were renewing a structure

997
00:46:36,589 --> 00:46:33,180
a more ancient structured I've had

998
00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:36,599
egyptologists confirm this that they um

999
00:46:40,849 --> 00:46:38,700
this was uh something that they did when

1000
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:40,859
you go to the so-called Valley Temple

1001
00:46:46,609 --> 00:46:44,819
which is originally contemporaries with

1002
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:46,619
the origins of the Sphinx what do you

1003
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,140
see you see a limestone structure that

1004
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:51,660
is faced with Aswan Granite because they

1005
00:46:57,470 --> 00:46:53,640
were refurbished yet they were

1006
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,480
reconstructing it so what I'm finding in

1007
00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:00,359
Egypt now especially over the last few

1008
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:02,520
years is that you look at these sites

1009
00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:06,960
and you find over and over that they are

1010
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:10,859
being reused refurbished by the ancient

1011
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:13,260
dynastic Egyptians the ones that we know

1012
00:47:18,349 --> 00:47:16,440
but they're building upon much older

1013
00:47:20,990 --> 00:47:18,359
structures they're reusing older

1014
00:47:22,490 --> 00:47:21,000
structures furthermore and this is

1015
00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:22,500
something that can get even more

1016
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,839
controversial something that Katie and I

1017
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,119
have been looking at recently is the

1018
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:29,520
evidence that some of these structures

1019
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:32,460
were intentionally buried with mud

1020
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:35,400
bricks and other materials

1021
00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:38,460
maybe because the original structures go

1022
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:41,819
to an even further period back and they

1023
00:47:46,010 --> 00:47:44,339
were protecting them we first were

1024
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:46,020
thinking about this in comparison to

1025
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,060
kabakley Tepe was which was

1026
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:50,880
intentionally buried and we find now in

1027
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:53,760
Turkey other sites that were

1028
00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:56,579
intentionally buried to protect them to

1029
00:48:02,809 --> 00:47:59,460
preserve them and we seem to be seeing

1030
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:02,819
that in ancient Egypt also I'm convinced

1031
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,700
now the thing in ancient Egypt is that

1032
00:48:11,150 --> 00:48:08,160
you have the dynastic Egyptians digging

1033
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:11,160
things out if you would reusing things

1034
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:14,339
etc etc versus in Turkey they were

1035
00:48:18,349 --> 00:48:16,260
buried and

1036
00:48:20,890 --> 00:48:18,359
a lot of those sites including capacity

1037
00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:20,900
haven't been touched for ten thousand

1038
00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:24,260
they just walked away they walked away

1039
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,240
if you have them reusing them over and

1040
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:29,880
over so it conflates and confuses

1041
00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:32,220
matters it would be

1042
00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:34,680
um and I used these silly analogies but

1043
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:37,079
it would be like the Coliseum in Rome

1044
00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:40,319
and in 10 000 years someone's Excavating

1045
00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:43,980
the Coliseum and they find iPhones and

1046
00:48:49,569 --> 00:48:46,619
whatnot so they say oh this was built

1047
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:49,579
you know in 2023

1048
00:48:55,069 --> 00:48:52,500
exactly exactly

1049
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:55,079
um can I give you one more example I

1050
00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:58,380
don't know there but uh at that sure do

1051
00:49:04,490 --> 00:49:01,859
you go that sure you did I did sure the

1052
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:04,500
so-called Red Pyramid

1053
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:07,079
um when you go into the Red Pyramid it's

1054
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,480
wonderful you go through it and you've

1055
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,000
got these different chambers Etc but

1056
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:14,040
there's one chamber where you go to

1057
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:16,380
which is generally the one that's the

1058
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,140
most difficult to get to when you go to

1059
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:22,079
and you get to it what if you have

1060
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,140
looked at as a geologist like I do what

1061
00:49:29,930 --> 00:49:27,540
you see is that there's a much older

1062
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:29,940
structure in that chamber and that

1063
00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:33,119
essentially the entire pyramid I'm now

1064
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:36,839
convinced was built around and over this

1065
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,079
much older structure to protect it to

1066
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:42,839
preserve it that's why the Red Pyramid

1067
00:49:48,109 --> 00:49:45,720
is where it is not because

1068
00:49:49,490 --> 00:49:48,119
you know the Pharaoh decide oh this is

1069
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:49,500
just where he wants to put the pyramid

1070
00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:52,440
no because there was a much older

1071
00:49:59,710 --> 00:49:56,280
structure there that he was having

1072
00:50:03,290 --> 00:49:59,720
preserved that he was served

1073
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,300
reappropriate reappropriating

1074
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,280
um at the same time

1075
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,400
so this to me is a major pattern now

1076
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,920
that we're seeing in Egypt and elsewhere

1077
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:13,200
sacred sites are sacred sites and they

1078
00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:15,000
get used and they get reused and they

1079
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:16,920
get reused

1080
00:50:22,430 --> 00:50:20,460
um the most difficult thing

1081
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,440
um I have ever done

1082
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:24,480
this says a lot because I've done some

1083
00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:28,200
crazy stuff in my life but descending

1084
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,300
into the bent pyramid

1085
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:32,400
hmm

1086
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:36,720
yeah yeah yeah not not easy and coming

1087
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:37,859
back out

1088
00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:41,520
oh man not DC at all when I when I've

1089
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:45,060
taken people to Egypt often well I've I

1090
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:47,400
and Katie's very good at this convince

1091
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,700
people to go into things because you

1092
00:50:55,390 --> 00:50:53,040
know you're there but so many people

1093
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:55,400
it's difficult and people get

1094
00:51:00,829 --> 00:50:58,140
claustrophobic and I saw them worry

1095
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:00,839
about what uh you know what they may

1096
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:02,700
experience and we were talking about

1097
00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:04,740
spiritual experiences but sometimes

1098
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:06,359
people worry about what was it going to

1099
00:51:11,809 --> 00:51:08,819
be a negative experience well after

1100
00:51:14,030 --> 00:51:11,819
after negative experience in that sense

1101
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,040
like oh demons came to them or something

1102
00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:16,319
it's what we need people being

1103
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:18,420
claustrophobic and also just physically

1104
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,940
it's physically it's that's you're

1105
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,040
talking about hundreds of feet you know

1106
00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:25,920
and the tunnel is this big right

1107
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:29,400
um but uh but if you do the if you do

1108
00:51:34,329 --> 00:51:32,099
the bent pyramid first the rest of Egypt

1109
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:34,339
is like the teacup ride at Disneyland

1110
00:51:39,490 --> 00:51:38,400
exactly exactly get that out of the way

1111
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:39,500
first

1112
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,660
but going back to

1113
00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:44,880
um your comments I'm looking at the

1114
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:46,619
clock I may not even take a break

1115
00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:47,940
tonight we just might go straight

1116
00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:50,579
through is is this

1117
00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:52,980
you mentioned the red granite ring

1118
00:52:00,170 --> 00:51:56,520
around coffrey right here's now talk

1119
00:52:03,130 --> 00:52:00,180
about Dogma where it's been repeated

1120
00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:03,140
enough over and over again that even

1121
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:05,940
egyptologists are believing it

1122
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:09,359
themselves and the Dogma is this

1123
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:12,720
they may like you said uh continually

1124
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:16,680
suggest that uh Khufu was built in 20

1125
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:21,000
years 20 000 uh workers and uh two and a

1126
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:23,700
half million Stones right so they over

1127
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:25,380
and over again they repeat this and they

1128
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:27,780
repeat this and they repeat this but if

1129
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:30,839
you look this is where this whole story

1130
00:52:36,770 --> 00:52:34,020
gets messed up because they also say the

1131
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:36,780
same thing about Caffrey that they were

1132
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:40,260
built at the same time look at the go to

1133
00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:42,180
I don't care go to an encyclopedia go to

1134
00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:44,099
Wikipedia go to any history book and

1135
00:52:49,069 --> 00:52:46,859
they're going to say 2650 BC is the

1136
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:49,079
dating on both of these pyramids so it's

1137
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:51,960
not 20 000 workers it's forty thousand

1138
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:54,119
it's not two and a half million that's

1139
00:53:00,829 --> 00:52:57,780
not right it's five million it's not you

1140
00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:00,839
know it's not 18 hectares it's 36

1141
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,720
hectares that were leveled and and and

1142
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:05,520
everything everything is done but they

1143
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,140
don't want to tell you that because it's

1144
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:09,480
hard enough for us to believe the first

1145
00:53:13,730 --> 00:53:12,300
story and then if you throw that in it's

1146
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:13,740
like wait a minute what was the

1147
00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:16,920
population of Egypt back then yeah yeah

1148
00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:18,300
and then it gets into how do you

1149
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:20,940
convince them to do it Etc Public Works

1150
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:23,640
no I mean it's a little it's a little

1151
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,619
doesn't make a lot of sense I'll put

1152
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,079
that they leave out the inconvenient

1153
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:31,680
stuff yeah and when people have done

1154
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:34,319
experimental archeology trying to cut

1155
00:53:39,470 --> 00:53:37,260
blocks and move them the way the

1156
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,480
traditional way that they believe that

1157
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:41,760
they were moved I mean it's been pretty

1158
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,040
much a failure

1159
00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:47,040
um to even build a you know 20-foot

1160
00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:50,460
pyramid which list what you've got at

1161
00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:52,859
Giza yeah when you see the king the

1162
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:55,380
Queen's pyramids on on Giza you know

1163
00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,200
next to mankara right and and you look

1164
00:54:02,270 --> 00:54:00,300
at those and then you look at the and

1165
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:02,280
you're like wait a minute here

1166
00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:05,599
whoever built these were drunk right

1167
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:08,940
they obviously didn't have a clue

1168
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:11,400
because you can step back and you can

1169
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,180
look at what's going on and talk about a

1170
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:17,040
failed attempt I never quite figured

1171
00:54:21,710 --> 00:54:19,500
that out why do you think they couldn't

1172
00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:21,720
build the you know those little ones for

1173
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:24,599
the family yeah that were worth a crap

1174
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:32,690
but then I mean one thing though you

1175
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,440
have to take into account is that these

1176
00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:36,240
are not in their original shape so

1177
00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:39,960
that's another another Factor the whole

1178
00:54:46,430 --> 00:54:43,020
Giza Plateau has been plundered

1179
00:54:48,670 --> 00:54:46,440
um for it's been open worry you know so

1180
00:54:52,609 --> 00:54:48,680
there's a lot of Cairo that is built

1181
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:52,619
excuse me live cairos built from Rock

1182
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,220
that was taken from the pyramids at Giza

1183
00:55:02,530 --> 00:54:58,559
you need some water

1184
00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:02,540
Katie get get Robert some water quickly

1185
00:55:08,329 --> 00:55:05,460
are they too excited about Egypt yeah

1186
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,339
Katie to the rescue yeah well um when

1187
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:10,319
you when you go around Cairo and you see

1188
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:12,420
some old building you know something

1189
00:55:17,290 --> 00:55:14,220
that's a few thousand years old and it's

1190
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:17,300
everywhere in Cairo oh yeah yeah

1191
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,520
chances are it's Limestone from one of

1192
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,040
the pyramids No a lot yeah and that's

1193
00:55:28,089 --> 00:55:25,440
been documented that some uh very

1194
00:55:30,650 --> 00:55:28,099
certain buildings have been documented

1195
00:55:32,450 --> 00:55:30,660
there's no doubt that it was limestone

1196
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:32,460
that was taken from the pyramid because

1197
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:34,920
it was a lot easier to just take blocks

1198
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:37,140
of limestone from the pyramids than to

1199
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:40,380
Fresh Quarry it uh if you didn't really

1200
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:42,660
much care about um

1201
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,900
the pyramids is Katie to the rescue

1202
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:47,760
she's still a rescue I'm going to drink

1203
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,710
okay now uh desert in Egypt you need to

1204
00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:56,880
drink

1205
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:58,980
say speculative I want to ask you

1206
00:56:01,809 --> 00:56:00,780
another question

1207
00:56:06,829 --> 00:56:01,819
um

1208
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:06,839
you don't really get it we understand

1209
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:10,800
up here mentally what 500 miles is okay

1210
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:13,020
but 500 Miles here in the United States

1211
00:56:21,049 --> 00:56:17,280
with our highway system and Forest and

1212
00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:21,059
and truck stops and food and and all 500

1213
00:56:27,290 --> 00:56:23,900
Miles here is not the same 500 miles

1214
00:56:30,049 --> 00:56:27,300
over the Sahara Desert no it's not it's

1215
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:30,059
two different sets of 500 miles right

1216
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:34,079
and when you go to Aswan uh which is

1217
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:35,700
crazy

1218
00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:38,520
um the Colossus of memnon still it

1219
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:42,780
messes with my head but yeah yeah so

1220
00:56:47,809 --> 00:56:45,839
anyway so you go yeah I was going to say

1221
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:47,819
it's really interesting you go to Egypt

1222
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,260
and you look at something like the

1223
00:56:54,049 --> 00:56:52,079
Colossus or the Sphinx or the pyramids

1224
00:56:56,809 --> 00:56:54,059
and you realize that these have been

1225
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,819
tourist attractions um for thousands of

1226
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:02,270
I mean it's documented different Roman

1227
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:05,400
emperors went to see this etc etc it's

1228
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,700
really quite amazing it's amazing and so

1229
00:57:13,069 --> 00:57:10,559
when you so when you go to Aswan

1230
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:13,079
obviously the unfinished Obelisk is is

1231
00:57:18,829 --> 00:57:15,900
one of the treats that you get to see

1232
00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:18,839
there but now you understand the

1233
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:20,460
distance because you have to fly to

1234
00:57:28,250 --> 00:57:23,839
Aswan yeah you're not driving

1235
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:28,260
you're not doing it and and so you just

1236
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:29,880
goes through your head

1237
00:57:37,010 --> 00:57:34,980
how did they a carve and Quarry 70 ton

1238
00:57:38,750 --> 00:57:37,020
red granite blocks you know for the

1239
00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:38,760
relieving Chambers for instance of the

1240
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:40,980
king's pyramid but uh the king's chamber

1241
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,260
but this is all over Egypt it's just not

1242
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:46,319
the Great Pyramid but how did they get

1243
00:57:50,809 --> 00:57:48,359
those blocks

1244
00:57:52,490 --> 00:57:50,819
to the Nile river which you can see from

1245
00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:52,500
oswan right

1246
00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:55,980
um virtually and then for 500 miles

1247
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,480
north

1248
00:58:03,490 --> 00:58:00,720
I don't I don't get that part I don't

1249
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:03,500
care what they want to say it's just

1250
00:58:09,049 --> 00:58:06,720
their Solutions don't make any sense it

1251
00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:09,059
don't make sense and um if you're asking

1252
00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:11,400
me how they did I don't know and I don't

1253
00:58:15,770 --> 00:58:14,339
believe anyone knows and uh you've got

1254
00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:15,780
70 ton

1255
00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:18,300
has one blocks for the relieving

1256
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:20,940
Chambers you've got obelisks that are

1257
00:58:27,650 --> 00:58:23,520
solid granted that they're moving around

1258
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:27,660
without breaking them uh no what they

1259
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:32,880
were doing was absolutely amazing and

1260
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:34,980
I don't have an answer to that I don't

1261
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:37,020
either I don't either anyone who claims

1262
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,640
they do have an answer I don't believe

1263
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:40,400
them actually

1264
00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:44,940
thank you the best answer is Merlin it

1265
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,180
was Merlin

1266
00:58:52,730 --> 00:58:50,160
it's as good as anything else it's as

1267
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:52,740
good as anything when you go

1268
00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:55,440
um uh you're a geologist man you

1269
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:58,980
understand yeah Strong Rock and soft

1270
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:01,440
rock and what's easy to carve and what

1271
00:59:06,349 --> 00:59:04,799
isn't but we all know on the hardness

1272
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,359
scale

1273
00:59:12,589 --> 00:59:08,400
um red granite is right up it's not the

1274
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:12,599
hardest but did you try carving it you

1275
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:16,260
can't well and um you try carving

1276
00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:20,099
something that size of an obelisk

1277
00:59:24,530 --> 00:59:22,380
Etc even one of the some of the smaller

1278
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:24,540
statues and try to get the finish that

1279
00:59:29,390 --> 00:59:28,140
they had on it the beauty that they I

1280
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:29,400
mean you know

1281
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:32,640
when when you go to it really hits you

1282
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,040
in the head at least the unfinished

1283
00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:37,440
Obelisk is still lying on its side so

1284
00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:39,780
you go well they couldn't move that

1285
00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:43,020
right but anyway so but when you go to

1286
00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:46,740
Luxor and you look at that you know and

1287
00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:49,140
uh Karnak 2 as well but we go to Luxor

1288
00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:51,900
to the entrance and yeah look at the

1289
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:56,280
size of that Obelisk and it it's how do

1290
01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,260
they move it how do they carve it how do

1291
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:00,420
they make it so beautiful how did they

1292
01:00:06,349 --> 01:00:03,960
tip it upright yeah somebody help me

1293
01:00:08,990 --> 01:00:06,359
understand this man this thing is China

1294
01:00:11,210 --> 01:00:09,000
it's like eight stories tall you know 80

1295
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:11,220
feet or whatever how are you tipping

1296
01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:12,839
that upright

1297
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:15,960
and it's never blown over it hasn't

1298
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:18,420
fallen over in 2000 years

1299
01:00:23,809 --> 01:00:21,599
no it's still sitting there now it it's

1300
01:00:25,549 --> 01:00:23,819
uh it's quite amazing it's quite amazing

1301
01:00:27,410 --> 01:00:25,559
and like I said I'm not going to try

1302
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:27,420
answer I mean I know all the theories

1303
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:28,920
about how they were supposed to be

1304
01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:32,880
piling up sand and sliding it down into

1305
01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:36,420
uh uh you know uh artificial pit and

1306
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:39,000
then removing all the sand again and

1307
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:40,980
other people think they did with some

1308
01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:44,339
kind of levers and uh rigging

1309
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:46,740
but I'm not convinced that if it would

1310
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,480
have really worked uh now what okay

1311
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:54,079
um can we talk about urfa for a second

1312
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,839
sure Earth of the city yeah or for the

1313
01:01:03,049 --> 01:00:59,359
man

1314
01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:03,059
let's talk about Earth the statue well

1315
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,680
because it I I feel that it relates

1316
01:01:11,930 --> 01:01:08,760
tremendously to what we're talking about

1317
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:11,940
because it comes from

1318
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,400
if we're dating everything at that 10

1319
01:01:19,010 --> 01:01:16,799
000 BC number irfaman's plops right down

1320
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:19,020
in the middle we've got to go back Lee

1321
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:22,559
Tepe uh we've got Giza and to me

1322
01:01:27,710 --> 01:01:25,020
geographically if you're looking on a

1323
01:01:31,450 --> 01:01:27,720
globe you know and you put your finger

1324
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:31,460
it's it's that region right Mesopotamia

1325
01:01:36,289 --> 01:01:34,140
and there's no region there's no reason

1326
01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:36,299
there couldn't have been interchange and

1327
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:40,380
connections and uh you know over land

1328
01:01:46,370 --> 01:01:44,700
um travel between Giza what's now Giza

1329
01:01:48,770 --> 01:01:46,380
of course but you know the area of the

1330
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:48,780
Great Sphinx or the what was the produce

1331
01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:51,359
things I'll call it and quebecally kept

1332
01:01:54,289 --> 01:01:52,680
the area there's no reason there

1333
01:01:56,690 --> 01:01:54,299
couldn't have been interchange between

1334
01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:56,700
them we know I don't have direct

1335
01:02:01,490 --> 01:01:59,220
evidence of that right now but we do

1336
01:02:03,530 --> 01:02:01,500
know that the Gobekli Tepe people just

1337
01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:03,540
call them that for the moment we're

1338
01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:06,180
exchanging goods and whatnot

1339
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:08,640
um with other people from you know

1340
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:11,359
hundreds and hundreds of kilometers away

1341
01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:14,280
and it certainly is conceivable to me

1342
01:02:20,809 --> 01:02:17,220
that there was some interchange and some

1343
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:20,819
connections and some you know Concepts

1344
01:02:23,569 --> 01:02:21,920
and

1345
01:02:25,370 --> 01:02:23,579
cultural

1346
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:25,380
transfer

1347
01:02:30,530 --> 01:02:28,559
and uh connections between the two areas

1348
01:02:33,170 --> 01:02:30,540
in 10 000 BC I don't think that's

1349
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:33,180
inconceivable at all it makes a lot of

1350
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,700
sense and uh before I let this thought

1351
01:02:42,410 --> 01:02:37,920
get away from me

1352
01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:42,420
um Khufu there's a Stella that uh is

1353
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:44,760
locked up in a box on the Giza Plateau

1354
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:46,740
right you can't see it it used to be on

1355
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:49,200
display but so it's sitting there and

1356
01:02:53,809 --> 01:02:51,660
when you when you go to the Giza plateau

1357
01:02:56,329 --> 01:02:53,819
and you look for that it's like well it

1358
01:02:58,130 --> 01:02:56,339
does exist it's right there

1359
01:03:00,530 --> 01:02:58,140
um you can't get into it and it's got a

1360
01:03:06,289 --> 01:03:00,540
padlock on it but inside of that is

1361
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:06,299
Estella where Khufu says hey I'm here

1362
01:03:13,130 --> 01:03:09,540
I'm paraphrasing uh Robert I'm here I'm

1363
01:03:16,910 --> 01:03:13,140
here with my boys on the Giza Plateau to

1364
01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:16,920
get some repair work done right now it's

1365
01:03:24,430 --> 01:03:21,540
like he he was there to repair and and

1366
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:24,440
do some janitorial work

1367
01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:27,960
on on the pyramids and and the Great

1368
01:03:32,569 --> 01:03:29,940
Sphinx so it was built before he died

1369
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:32,579
that that's exactly the type of thing

1370
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:34,380
I'm talking about where they were not

1371
01:03:38,450 --> 01:03:36,780
they themselves

1372
01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:38,460
um we're saying there's evidence that

1373
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:40,020
they were saying that they were

1374
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,420
repairing older structures older things

1375
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:45,119
reusing them repairing them refurbishing

1376
01:03:50,450 --> 01:03:47,400
them whatever term you want to use the

1377
01:03:53,150 --> 01:03:50,460
Stella between the paws of the Sphinx uh

1378
01:03:55,549 --> 01:03:53,160
had uh hieroglyphic inscription which is

1379
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:55,559
since unfortunately been destroyed

1380
01:04:01,549 --> 01:03:58,319
flaked away uh it was found in the 19th

1381
01:04:03,890 --> 01:04:01,559
century and it mentioned copra and it

1382
01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:03,900
meant that's this so-called dream Stella

1383
01:04:10,370 --> 01:04:06,299
this Stella that was put up by tutmosis

1384
01:04:14,750 --> 01:04:10,380
IV in New Kingdom time so say 1400 or so

1385
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:14,760
BC but it mentioned Copper from about 25

1386
01:04:21,049 --> 01:04:18,900
26 somewhere in there BC as

1387
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,059
um having done something with the Sphinx

1388
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:23,760
in certain modern egyptologists latched

1389
01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:25,920
on to this and said well that proves

1390
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,500
that copper had this thing's carp that

1391
01:04:32,750 --> 01:04:30,960
copper was responsible for this fix but

1392
01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:32,760
there's no evidence it actually said

1393
01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:35,220
that at all and I think it's much more

1394
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,420
likely

1395
01:04:40,670 --> 01:04:38,400
and unfortunately we don't have the

1396
01:04:42,349 --> 01:04:40,680
inscription now and it was only partial

1397
01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:42,359
when it was first founded in the 19th

1398
01:04:47,950 --> 01:04:45,180
century but it's much more likely that

1399
01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:47,960
what it was referring to was that in

1400
01:04:55,849 --> 01:04:53,160
2500 in round numbers you see copra of

1401
01:04:58,970 --> 01:04:55,859
the Old Kingdom was restoring a much

1402
01:05:03,650 --> 01:04:58,980
older structure just like tepmosis of

1403
01:05:06,049 --> 01:05:03,660
Fort utmost is the fourth and 1400 BC

1404
01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:06,059
was restoring

1405
01:05:13,130 --> 01:05:09,000
what was a venerated structure ancient

1406
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:13,140
structure to him didn't Moses IV he he

1407
01:05:19,490 --> 01:05:17,520
says that he was he was resting in the

1408
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:19,500
shade he was resting in the shade

1409
01:05:24,589 --> 01:05:22,319
because his face was completely uh

1410
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:24,599
covered buried in sand up to its neck

1411
01:05:30,289 --> 01:05:27,720
and that's how the Sphinx was for a very

1412
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,299
long period of time and dynastic times

1413
01:05:35,630 --> 01:05:32,880
it got dug out periodically but was just

1414
01:05:38,690 --> 01:05:35,640
a head sticking out of the sand

1415
01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:38,700
um and yeah he's there on a hot summer

1416
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:41,900
day blazing sun right

1417
01:05:48,349 --> 01:05:45,540
there's no trees right so what a big

1418
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,359
head why not big head and he falls

1419
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:51,359
asleep and that's the the dream that

1420
01:05:55,789 --> 01:05:53,460
came to him is what he wrote on the

1421
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:55,799
Stella which is now between this thinks

1422
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:58,319
his paws he dug out this Sphinx He

1423
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:01,200
restored these things he uh set up or re

1424
01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:03,480
invigorate a cult if you want to call it

1425
01:06:08,450 --> 01:06:06,059
that to the Sphinx Etc and what he's

1426
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:08,460
says on the Stella I believe what he

1427
01:06:12,829 --> 01:06:10,680
said on the Stella was that he was

1428
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:12,839
basically following the footsteps of a

1429
01:06:18,170 --> 01:06:15,119
pharaoh from over a thousand years

1430
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:18,180
earlier uh which would give him you know

1431
01:06:23,809 --> 01:06:21,240
Prestige and whatnot that he was again

1432
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:23,819
restoring this fangs just like this

1433
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:27,480
venerated pharaoh of uh Millennium plus

1434
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:30,839
earlier had done but the point is that

1435
01:06:37,849 --> 01:06:35,220
even in the third millennium it was a

1436
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:37,859
very very ancient structure that goes

1437
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,039
back to really what the Egyptians called

1438
01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:43,440
zeptep they had a name for it they

1439
01:06:50,029 --> 01:06:47,400
called that early period Zip There was a

1440
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,039
beginning of time for them essentially

1441
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:52,319
or the beginning of civilization for

1442
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:56,240
them and they saw themselves as

1443
01:07:03,470 --> 01:06:59,520
restoring that or bringing civilization

1444
01:07:06,170 --> 01:07:03,480
back from that earlier period I have

1445
01:07:08,930 --> 01:07:06,180
um uh let me pull this up you're gonna

1446
01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:08,940
you're gonna dig this for most people

1447
01:07:15,170 --> 01:07:12,180
that don't uh understand

1448
01:07:17,390 --> 01:07:15,180
uh the size of the Stella so I'm gonna

1449
01:07:19,970 --> 01:07:17,400
I'm gonna pop this up here real quick uh

1450
01:07:23,870 --> 01:07:19,980
and you'll get a kick out of this

1451
01:07:26,089 --> 01:07:23,880
let me er er

1452
01:07:28,490 --> 01:07:26,099
I don't know just pull this up for you

1453
01:07:30,650 --> 01:07:28,500
let's see here

1454
01:07:33,049 --> 01:07:30,660
all right

1455
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,059
okay so check it out Robert that's

1456
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:35,760
awesome yeah that's Billy Carson that's

1457
01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:38,760
Elizabeth but if we if we Zoom this up

1458
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:42,299
look at the size of this Stella now you

1459
01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:44,640
can see Billy's six foot four six foot

1460
01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:47,400
six I'm six foot and look at the size of

1461
01:07:53,089 --> 01:07:49,500
the Stella it's the whole thing is not

1462
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:53,099
in this picture and you can see at the

1463
01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:55,380
top of the Stella the two sphinxes the

1464
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:57,900
two sphinxes this brings another issue

1465
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:00,299
of is there a second Sphinx there are

1466
01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:03,599
second Sphinx and you can also see in

1467
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,400
the Stella and I can see it here but I

1468
01:08:10,370 --> 01:08:07,920
know I'm looking at uh you can see that

1469
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:10,380
each thing sits over what looks like a

1470
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:12,660
structure but in fact there you can see

1471
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:15,599
it now you can see that each Sphinx it's

1472
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:18,120
over what looks like a structure and

1473
01:08:23,329 --> 01:08:20,819
what I interpret that is

1474
01:08:26,209 --> 01:08:23,339
what I interpret those to be or at least

1475
01:08:29,209 --> 01:08:26,219
the one that is the Sphinx we know it's

1476
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:29,219
the Sphinx it's over uh cavity a chamber

1477
01:08:35,709 --> 01:08:33,000
an archive which uh Thomas de Becky uh

1478
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:35,719
geophysicist fellow geophysicist and I

1479
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,299
uh found using seismic techniques back

1480
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:42,480
in the early 1990s we found a chamber

1481
01:08:49,490 --> 01:08:45,839
under the left paw of the Sphinx that um

1482
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:49,500
no I found I found all the records our

1483
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:51,839
archived that type of thing and we have

1484
01:08:58,249 --> 01:08:55,319
extra evidence now that the uh Sphinx

1485
01:09:00,890 --> 01:08:58,259
was Guardian archive I mean when I say

1486
01:09:05,809 --> 01:09:00,900
textual evidence we have evidence from

1487
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:05,819
around 3000 or 3100 uh BC so even before

1488
01:09:10,729 --> 01:09:08,460
the Sphinx was supposedly have

1489
01:09:12,610 --> 01:09:10,739
was supposedly built was supposedly

1490
01:09:15,169 --> 01:09:12,620
carved according to classical

1491
01:09:16,849 --> 01:09:15,179
egyptologists the ancient Egyptians were

1492
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,859
talking about

1493
01:09:22,249 --> 01:09:19,199
um what would become the Sphinx as a

1494
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,259
lioness who was Guardian archive and

1495
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,239
that that was a very ancient archive

1496
01:09:31,789 --> 01:09:26,880
even 5 000 years ago

1497
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:31,799
now uh there is uh you know I shot this

1498
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:34,799
video of this fangs and uh I've got it

1499
01:09:39,530 --> 01:09:36,960
here it's it's loading up

1500
01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:39,540
um around I know you you've seen this

1501
01:09:45,070 --> 01:09:42,839
I'm just interested so I I go around the

1502
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,080
back of the Sphinx and I'm coming around

1503
01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:48,480
and that's I I found that opening

1504
01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:50,819
underneath the back

1505
01:09:55,310 --> 01:09:51,980
yeah

1506
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,320
what is that opening the rear there's an

1507
01:10:00,530 --> 01:09:58,140
opening that goes into a cavity that's

1508
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:00,540
in the rear of the Sphinx I gotta Orient

1509
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:04,860
myself it's a rear left

1510
01:10:10,729 --> 01:10:07,440
and uh we've actually found that

1511
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:10,739
seismically also and the egyptologists

1512
01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:12,900
oh that's not a big deal because we've

1513
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:16,140
already knew about that uh there right

1514
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:18,660
there you just yeah yeah yeah let me um

1515
01:10:26,209 --> 01:10:22,320
and you can yeah I what what How old it

1516
01:10:29,689 --> 01:10:26,219
is what it goes to I'm not exactly sure

1517
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:29,699
I suspect that this one is uh later that

1518
01:10:34,669 --> 01:10:32,940
it's probably a a late period that type

1519
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,679
of thing because people were always

1520
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,960
looking and plundering and trying to go

1521
01:10:42,910 --> 01:10:39,239
in but there's a chamber under the left

1522
01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:42,920
paw there's this uh cavity that's under

1523
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:45,960
the left rear of the Sphinx and there's

1524
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:49,020
probably a tunnel that uh

1525
01:10:53,209 --> 01:10:52,020
is not quite parallel to the body of

1526
01:10:55,850 --> 01:10:53,219
this thing so we picked that up

1527
01:10:58,130 --> 01:10:55,860
seismically also you can see it but that

1528
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:58,140
tunnel seems to be partly collapsed at

1529
01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:00,960
least based on the seismic data see from

1530
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:04,500
this view here yeah the latter the

1531
01:11:09,470 --> 01:11:06,780
latter goes deep it goes straight down

1532
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:09,480
and you can't see the bottom of it and

1533
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:12,239
then this is the second tunnel here you

1534
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:13,739
can see that you're mentioning right

1535
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,100
it's like yeah it's towards the front of

1536
01:11:21,950 --> 01:11:18,960
the Sphinx

1537
01:11:24,050 --> 01:11:21,960
um and it's there I didn't I chose not

1538
01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:24,060
to go down there I could have I was

1539
01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:26,100
alone right I could have

1540
01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:28,199
um yeah but you gotta be careful too

1541
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,340
because

1542
01:11:32,930 --> 01:11:31,440
um uh

1543
01:11:35,630 --> 01:11:32,940
how should I say

1544
01:11:37,330 --> 01:11:35,640
things can be cruel in Egypt if you get

1545
01:11:39,649 --> 01:11:37,340
caught doing it yeah yeah

1546
01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:39,659
I I only say that because I've known

1547
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:41,940
people who have gotten caught and it's

1548
01:11:48,110 --> 01:11:44,239
not been pretty no uh

1549
01:11:50,090 --> 01:11:48,120
Egyptian prison or flying home safe I'm

1550
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:50,100
going with flying home safe yeah but

1551
01:11:54,050 --> 01:11:51,600
I've known people who've ended up in

1552
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:54,060
Egyptian prisons for a few days before

1553
01:11:58,490 --> 01:11:56,640
they finally got out after paying lots

1554
01:12:00,189 --> 01:11:58,500
of bribes

1555
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:00,199
um

1556
01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:03,780
yeah so uh did you go down in the

1557
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:07,260
tunnels that uh they're not down in that

1558
01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:09,900
there it wasn't um

1559
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:12,840
uh someday I will if I get official

1560
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:16,020
permission should we say yeah there's um

1561
01:12:21,169 --> 01:12:19,560
uh I I find it interesting

1562
01:12:22,030 --> 01:12:21,179
um I'm gonna back this up to the

1563
01:12:24,890 --> 01:12:22,040
beginning

1564
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:24,900
one that's important is under the left

1565
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:26,940
uh the Sphinx and that's something I'd

1566
01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:30,719
like to do officially at some point

1567
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:33,420
uh because that's a really big chamber

1568
01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:35,520
that we found seismically and I think

1569
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,460
that's the one that's super ancient so

1570
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:41,280
you think it was a female lion yes

1571
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:43,320
absolutely

1572
01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:47,520
um it didn't know the name heat okay you

1573
01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:48,780
know why

1574
01:12:53,930 --> 01:12:51,540
um I feel I've always felt that this

1575
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:53,940
Sphinx was a female yeah female because

1576
01:13:01,850 --> 01:12:58,800
when you go around the butt the butt her

1577
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:01,860
butt and the way that the tail wraps

1578
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,320
around and the way it's lying on the

1579
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,199
ground uh the tail and how it it feels

1580
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,679
like a female lion

1581
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:12,000
I want to say one thing because I

1582
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,460
misspoke a few minutes ago I may have

1583
01:13:19,850 --> 01:13:17,520
said the word bribes it's really

1584
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,860
um not so much bribes but you have to

1585
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:22,320
pay fines you have to pay

1586
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,860
um uh you know it's a it's a very

1587
01:13:30,590 --> 01:13:28,560
different uh system in Egypt the way

1588
01:13:33,410 --> 01:13:30,600
they punish you and the way they can

1589
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,420
just impose uh fines and that type of

1590
01:13:38,570 --> 01:13:35,280
thing you on you

1591
01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:38,580
I just want to clarify that the size of

1592
01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:43,260
it you don't get the scope no eyes of it

1593
01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:46,020
until you are right there

1594
01:13:50,209 --> 01:13:48,659
and uh what a privilege for me to be

1595
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:50,219
able to just do all of this by myself

1596
01:13:54,169 --> 01:13:51,600
with nobody

1597
01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:54,179
uh interfering and I could just take a

1598
01:13:59,090 --> 01:13:56,580
moment footage that you got yeah

1599
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:59,100
beautiful yeah yeah it's pretty

1600
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:00,560
incredible

1601
01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:03,300
you can see there's different repairs to

1602
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:06,060
this there's different repairs to it

1603
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:07,920
some of those are very modern I've been

1604
01:14:11,810 --> 01:14:09,780
there when they've been doing that but

1605
01:14:14,030 --> 01:14:11,820
then you can also see how they're much

1606
01:14:16,370 --> 01:14:14,040
older repairs because it's been repaired

1607
01:14:19,790 --> 01:14:16,380
for thousands of years even in dynastic

1608
01:14:21,649 --> 01:14:19,800
times right there's a whole sequence of

1609
01:14:24,890 --> 01:14:21,659
repairs you're looking at thousands of

1610
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:24,900
years worth of repairs from uh 20 and

1611
01:14:31,490 --> 01:14:28,560
21st century repairs going back

1612
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,500
um to all Kingdom times and probably

1613
01:14:35,330 --> 01:14:32,880
earlier

1614
01:14:37,370 --> 01:14:35,340
yeah this this thing took me by surprise

1615
01:14:40,689 --> 01:14:37,380
when I walked up on that I was like wait

1616
01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:40,699
wait what what what I was like

1617
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,500
oh man there's nothing to see here

1618
01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:45,840
there's nothing underneath his Sphinx oh

1619
01:14:49,610 --> 01:14:48,360
yeah well what is that you know

1620
01:14:52,810 --> 01:14:49,620
so

1621
01:14:56,030 --> 01:14:52,820
um okay back to earthamat and and and

1622
01:14:58,250 --> 01:14:56,040
get to Earthman yet yeah why why I think

1623
01:14:59,930 --> 01:14:58,260
orphan man and and the rest of the I

1624
01:15:02,689 --> 01:14:59,940
think they all fit together they're just

1625
01:15:05,810 --> 01:15:02,699
all part of the puzzle they're all these

1626
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:05,820
missing pieces and and and we keep going

1627
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,280
back to the same dating on this which

1628
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,560
would suggest

1629
01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:12,719
um everything is taught everything is

1630
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,460
taught you are taught how to do that

1631
01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:15,840
you're taught how to Quarry you're

1632
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:17,820
taught math you're taught how to write

1633
01:15:24,610 --> 01:15:20,640
you don't invent writing one day Robert

1634
01:15:27,950 --> 01:15:24,620
shock doesn't wake up and go oh you know

1635
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:27,960
you go to school and you're taught and

1636
01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:30,900
when you look at Eartha man uh

1637
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:32,940
independent of Gobekli Tepe and even

1638
01:15:38,990 --> 01:15:35,760
Egypt when you look at Eartha man I see

1639
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,000
a certain Elegance I see a fashion sense

1640
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,480
right the v-neck yeah yeah

1641
01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:44,719
you know that's that's

1642
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,540
not punitive earthaman is incredibly

1643
01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:50,880
sophisticated at least that's how Earth

1644
01:15:56,930 --> 01:15:53,699
of man comes across to me and I see a

1645
01:15:59,149 --> 01:15:56,940
huge disconnect for instance when you

1646
01:16:02,450 --> 01:15:59,159
have these people saying oh the people

1647
01:16:04,970 --> 01:16:02,460
building quebecue Tepe or carving the

1648
01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:04,980
original Sphinx Etc that oh you know

1649
01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:07,020
somehow they were just primitive they

1650
01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:08,580
happened I've had egyptologists

1651
01:16:13,610 --> 01:16:10,980
literally say to this to be

1652
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:13,620
and I'm amazed when egyptologists

1653
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:16,320
they've studied Egypt they devote their

1654
01:16:21,649 --> 01:16:18,600
life to it and they basically say yeah

1655
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:21,659
these are really primitive people

1656
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:24,659
um worshiping these Gods with human

1657
01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:27,360
bodies and animal heads and yeah they

1658
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:29,820
made some good art but you know hahaha

1659
01:16:34,850 --> 01:16:32,760
look how but more advanced we are than

1660
01:16:37,070 --> 01:16:34,860
they were and so why would you devote

1661
01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:37,080
your life to studying something that was

1662
01:16:43,070 --> 01:16:40,440
so you you have such a bad feel for or

1663
01:16:45,950 --> 01:16:43,080
you know you think it's just a big joke

1664
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:45,960
in hindsight uh I think they were

1665
01:16:49,970 --> 01:16:47,640
incredibly sophisticated both ancient

1666
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:49,980
Egyptians and the Gobekli Tepe people

1667
01:16:55,130 --> 01:16:52,800
and I think when you look at Earth a man

1668
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,140
you are not looking at some kind of

1669
01:16:58,990 --> 01:16:57,600
primitive caveman or some kind of

1670
01:17:02,570 --> 01:16:59,000
primitive

1671
01:17:04,510 --> 01:17:02,580
hunter-gatherer who what could you know

1672
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:04,520
couldn't pull himself together

1673
01:17:10,370 --> 01:17:06,960
uh I I think you're looking at someone

1674
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,380
incredibly sophisticated uh you know

1675
01:17:15,050 --> 01:17:12,480
it's got that over and on what exactly

1676
01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:15,060
is that representing some kind of Cape

1677
01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:17,880
or some kind of uh sophisticated

1678
01:17:25,010 --> 01:17:21,300
clothing you've got the incredible

1679
01:17:29,090 --> 01:17:25,020
obsidian eyes I mean to me it's a it's a

1680
01:17:31,250 --> 01:17:29,100
it's incredible statue if um Picasso or

1681
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:31,260
some other famous artist had made that

1682
01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:34,320
in the 20th century uh you wouldn't you

1683
01:17:41,870 --> 01:17:37,260
wouldn't doubt it whatsoever no it it

1684
01:17:45,050 --> 01:17:41,880
and it's some say I I I I think this

1685
01:17:46,490 --> 01:17:45,060
will be proven wrong but that this is

1686
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:46,500
the earliest

1687
01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:49,260
uh depiction of of human carved in a

1688
01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:52,140
statute right now I'm saying that I mean

1689
01:17:57,290 --> 01:17:55,260
it depends I mean I never was I I always

1690
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:57,300
it always bothers me when people talk

1691
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,760
about the earliest or the first because

1692
01:18:04,970 --> 01:18:02,640
you're just setting yourself up to um be

1693
01:18:07,130 --> 01:18:04,980
proven demonstrate incorrect because

1694
01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:07,140
we'll find something earlier and

1695
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:09,420
certainly you have earlier depictions of

1696
01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:12,120
humans uh going back tens of thousands

1697
01:18:17,390 --> 01:18:14,340
of years earlier but not at the

1698
01:18:19,310 --> 01:18:17,400
sophisticated level one could argue as

1699
01:18:22,189 --> 01:18:19,320
um Earth event

1700
01:18:24,649 --> 01:18:22,199
so-called Earth for man and what do you

1701
01:18:26,930 --> 01:18:24,659
make of this the stoic

1702
01:18:28,970 --> 01:18:26,940
um because I I've got uh I was just

1703
01:18:31,130 --> 01:18:28,980
looking for it on my computer I got the

1704
01:18:33,890 --> 01:18:31,140
picture of you and urfa man standing

1705
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:33,900
together it's a great image and you know

1706
01:18:40,430 --> 01:18:37,040
the image that I'm speaking

1707
01:18:45,290 --> 01:18:40,440
you've been you've looked into the face

1708
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:45,300
of urfa man and there's this histolic

1709
01:18:50,689 --> 01:18:48,080
the right word

1710
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:50,699
what do you make of the expression of

1711
01:18:57,770 --> 01:18:54,480
earthaman I mean it's enigmatic I think

1712
01:18:59,930 --> 01:18:57,780
I think uh it's really meant to get you

1713
01:19:02,570 --> 01:18:59,940
to think and I think it's one of these

1714
01:19:05,209 --> 01:19:02,580
faces that you can um

1715
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:05,219
it's looking back at you he's looking

1716
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:07,920
back at you and he's uh I think you can

1717
01:19:14,209 --> 01:19:11,040
communicate so to speak uh irfamen if I

1718
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:14,219
could use a cliche the Mona Lisa and

1719
01:19:19,490 --> 01:19:16,800
people see in the face of the Mona Lisa

1720
01:19:22,570 --> 01:19:19,500
all kinds of different expressions and

1721
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:22,580
things I mean it's it's really sort of

1722
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,880
enigmatic and a wonderful way of

1723
01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:29,280
expressing something that really cannot

1724
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:31,320
be put in words if I could put it that

1725
01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:33,900
way uh there's Superman but that's not

1726
01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:36,540
the one with me and no that's that's

1727
01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:38,719
touchy

1728
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:40,920
therefore man if I were standing next to

1729
01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:44,400
Earth a man it's about the same uh I'm

1730
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,580
about the um same size or

1731
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:49,679
I mean I've got a

1732
01:19:55,190 --> 01:19:52,500
I don't have the offhand on my in my

1733
01:19:58,030 --> 01:19:56,630
[Music]

1734
01:20:01,490 --> 01:19:58,040
um but

1735
01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:01,500
uh forgotten civilization my book but I

1736
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:03,000
don't think I can hold that up in you

1737
01:20:07,790 --> 01:20:05,340
would be able to see it so well now what

1738
01:20:10,729 --> 01:20:07,800
do you make of uh again I keep saying

1739
01:20:14,570 --> 01:20:10,739
fashion sense here right now this isn't

1740
01:20:17,090 --> 01:20:14,580
Stone Age man wearing animal skins no

1741
01:20:21,169 --> 01:20:17,100
not at all that's some whatever he's

1742
01:20:23,689 --> 01:20:21,179
wearing is quite sophisticated I believe

1743
01:20:26,630 --> 01:20:23,699
um and you see this also on the

1744
01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:26,640
anthropomorphic pillars at quebeculi

1745
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:27,719
Tepe

1746
01:20:35,689 --> 01:20:31,440
so you know the the

1747
01:20:39,709 --> 01:20:35,699
their Renditions of themselves 10 000 BC

1748
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:39,719
is very different than the Renditions

1749
01:20:46,209 --> 01:20:43,440
that uh the popular press and uh sort of

1750
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,219
the general imagination of people have

1751
01:20:52,189 --> 01:20:49,199
uh for something so old they think of

1752
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:55,070
you know cavemen or hunter-gatherers

1753
01:21:01,729 --> 01:20:58,400
Primitives I don't think this is caveman

1754
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:01,739
hunter-gatherer primitive at all no very

1755
01:21:07,550 --> 01:21:05,120
very sophisticated I mean it's it's got

1756
01:21:09,649 --> 01:21:07,560
a depiction of themselves that's how

1757
01:21:11,810 --> 01:21:09,659
they thought of themselves exactly right

1758
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:11,820
and and what goes along with that

1759
01:21:19,450 --> 01:21:15,600
picture well probably everything a

1760
01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:19,460
government organization agriculture

1761
01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:24,360
math laws music I I'm convinced that

1762
01:21:30,410 --> 01:21:27,060
what you have on the pillars of gebekli

1763
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,420
Tepe uh it's not just pretty

1764
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:33,360
um decoration I'm convinced at this

1765
01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:35,280
point I think it's highly probable

1766
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:37,320
should we say that that they were

1767
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:40,800
literate that they um had some form of

1768
01:21:47,390 --> 01:21:43,679
symbolic notation some form of writing

1769
01:21:50,209 --> 01:21:47,400
we would call it uh what spoke to you

1770
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,219
first about go Beckley Tepe uh was it

1771
01:21:55,810 --> 01:21:52,560
spiritual was it scientific was it

1772
01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:55,820
astrological well

1773
01:22:00,830 --> 01:21:58,140
the Practical thing about the Beckley

1774
01:22:03,530 --> 01:22:00,840
Cafe is that I'm I'm totally embroiled

1775
01:22:05,689 --> 01:22:03,540
in this Sphinx controversy in the age of

1776
01:22:08,750 --> 01:22:05,699
the Sphinx and going back to what we

1777
01:22:11,209 --> 01:22:08,760
began talking about and

1778
01:22:14,510 --> 01:22:11,219
you know that where's other evidence of

1779
01:22:18,050 --> 01:22:14,520
civilization of sophistication at such

1780
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,060
an early period so Gobekli Tepe provided

1781
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:20,159
that evidence so that from a personal

1782
01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:22,440
point of view was very relieving to me

1783
01:22:28,490 --> 01:22:24,900
but

1784
01:22:30,169 --> 01:22:28,500
actually seen the site there's no doubt

1785
01:22:32,990 --> 01:22:30,179
in my mind that this is a spiritual

1786
01:22:37,610 --> 01:22:33,000
sight this is a sacred site the Beckley

1787
01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:37,620
Tepe has a mulberry tree uh on top of it

1788
01:22:43,550 --> 01:22:41,040
uh very old mulberry tree and people

1789
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:43,560
have been going to this site long before

1790
01:22:50,510 --> 01:22:47,400
Schmidt found it and excavated uh

1791
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:50,520
there's some um Graves or where called

1792
01:22:56,450 --> 01:22:54,000
Graves on the top of the site the entire

1793
01:22:59,810 --> 01:22:56,460
site had been intentionally buried but

1794
01:23:02,330 --> 01:22:59,820
somehow people still migrate to it I'm

1795
01:23:04,729 --> 01:23:02,340
talking in modern times before it was

1796
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:04,739
excavated so it was seen as a special

1797
01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:07,140
site maybe they didn't know exactly why

1798
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:10,440
maybe they didn't know and certainly

1799
01:23:14,330 --> 01:23:12,540
most of them certainly did not know that

1800
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,340
there was something buried underneath it

1801
01:23:18,890 --> 01:23:16,800
this incredible ancient site but they

1802
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:18,900
still gravitate toward it they still

1803
01:23:27,130 --> 01:23:24,000
came to offer uh prayers to ask for

1804
01:23:30,110 --> 01:23:27,140
um you know blessings that type of thing

1805
01:23:32,930 --> 01:23:30,120
and with the tree on it and the graves

1806
01:23:35,149 --> 01:23:32,940
there so it was a spiritual site it was

1807
01:23:37,850 --> 01:23:35,159
a sacred site in modern times long

1808
01:23:41,209 --> 01:23:37,860
before it was excavated and it was found

1809
01:23:43,850 --> 01:23:41,219
that there was this incredible evidence

1810
01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:43,860
of sophisticated civilization underneath

1811
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:47,699
I went to I we you know I take tours to

1812
01:23:54,350 --> 01:23:50,760
Quebec Lake and tours to Turkey and I'll

1813
01:23:57,410 --> 01:23:54,360
be doing another one this August uh we

1814
01:23:59,410 --> 01:23:57,420
had a time well on one of the tours we

1815
01:24:04,910 --> 01:23:59,420
went there for Sunrise

1816
01:24:08,330 --> 01:24:04,920
and it was just everyone was so moved as

1817
01:24:12,590 --> 01:24:08,340
his son came up over the site and the

1818
01:24:14,450 --> 01:24:12,600
wind was in our faces I mean it you

1819
01:24:16,669 --> 01:24:14,460
could it was just the type of thing you

1820
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,679
can't describe with words you had to be

1821
01:24:21,649 --> 01:24:19,199
there and you know talk about people

1822
01:24:25,790 --> 01:24:21,659
just getting very emotional

1823
01:24:28,450 --> 01:24:25,800
it all it all hit us it hit all of us it

1824
01:24:32,450 --> 01:24:28,460
was just very very powerful

1825
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:32,460
site and again this in my mind and I

1826
01:24:37,070 --> 01:24:33,840
want to stress this

1827
01:24:39,649 --> 01:24:37,080
I believe that they were building Quebec

1828
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:39,659
Lee Tepe there because it was a powerful

1829
01:24:44,030 --> 01:24:42,960
site they felt that also and then they

1830
01:24:45,950 --> 01:24:44,040
uh

1831
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:45,960
you know decide to do what they were

1832
01:24:50,930 --> 01:24:48,239
going to do there and I don't see it as

1833
01:24:52,669 --> 01:24:50,940
primarily a temple or necessarily a

1834
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,679
spiritual

1835
01:24:58,490 --> 01:24:55,440
um site I think that's part of it I also

1836
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,500
think that from their point of view and

1837
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:00,719
we see this right up into the

1838
01:25:06,410 --> 01:25:04,080
Renaissance and really through the 17th

1839
01:25:10,490 --> 01:25:06,420
century of the right into the modern era

1840
01:25:13,070 --> 01:25:10,500
science and spirituality were United so

1841
01:25:15,770 --> 01:25:13,080
it wasn't that it was just a church or a

1842
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,780
temple it actually troubles me no end

1843
01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:18,480
when people just refer to quebecally

1844
01:25:22,910 --> 01:25:20,699
Tepe as the world's oldest Temple or the

1845
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:22,920
world's first temple I don't think it

1846
01:25:27,709 --> 01:25:25,380
was a temple and any kind of modern

1847
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:27,719
sense I think it was some kind of

1848
01:25:33,950 --> 01:25:30,780
spiritual center but also scientific

1849
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:33,960
center and astronomical Center and

1850
01:25:40,430 --> 01:25:37,199
astrological Center so I think it

1851
01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:40,440
combined a lot of things that

1852
01:25:46,250 --> 01:25:43,320
um we now try to dissociate we now try

1853
01:25:48,530 --> 01:25:46,260
to separate in modern you know in our

1854
01:25:49,729 --> 01:25:48,540
modern culture

1855
01:25:51,709 --> 01:25:49,739
um what are you going to be speaking

1856
01:25:53,570 --> 01:25:51,719
about I'm going to see you in in four

1857
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:53,580
weeks out here in Southern California at

1858
01:25:57,410 --> 01:25:55,679
the peripod festival we'll be talking

1859
01:25:59,390 --> 01:25:57,420
about a lot of this I guess I'm going to

1860
01:26:01,610 --> 01:25:59,400
show I'm planning to give a presentation

1861
01:26:04,850 --> 01:26:01,620
I'm giving a presentation and I'm

1862
01:26:07,310 --> 01:26:04,860
planning to show him that presentation

1863
01:26:10,250 --> 01:26:07,320
um uh some I work on the Sphinx and in

1864
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:10,260
Egypt some of my work in turkey and

1865
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:13,320
quebecue Tepe and other sites

1866
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,600
so you know everything we've been

1867
01:26:19,010 --> 01:26:17,520
talking about plus a lot more we'll be

1868
01:26:22,330 --> 01:26:19,020
covering

1869
01:26:27,229 --> 01:26:22,340
um and and I'm only asking because

1870
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:27,239
it seems that uh I think all of us all

1871
01:26:33,890 --> 01:26:31,440
of us on this planet were hoping to find

1872
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:33,900
something like Gobekli tappy

1873
01:26:37,070 --> 01:26:35,520
something that predates everything

1874
01:26:39,410 --> 01:26:37,080
something that's going to tip things

1875
01:26:42,410 --> 01:26:39,420
over because we love that stuff right we

1876
01:26:45,290 --> 01:26:42,420
do we do it's a sense of adventure but

1877
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,300
it's important well and how many more

1878
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:47,520
gobekly tepies are there to be found

1879
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,159
they found another 12 right they've got

1880
01:26:55,129 --> 01:26:52,320
the 12 tabies yeah it doesn't have been

1881
01:26:57,950 --> 01:26:55,139
found so far within uh 200 kilometer

1882
01:27:00,830 --> 01:26:57,960
area or so and I think a lot more going

1883
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,840
to be found and I think that we already

1884
01:27:06,290 --> 01:27:03,360
have more of them but we don't realize

1885
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:06,300
it so we talk we're talking about Eartha

1886
01:27:12,890 --> 01:27:09,840
man and earthaman is very important uh

1887
01:27:16,729 --> 01:27:12,900
it's to me a Great Masterpiece it's a

1888
01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:16,739
it's incredible statue and really is a

1889
01:27:22,010 --> 01:27:19,620
masterpiece from 12 000 years ago but

1890
01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:22,020
it's called earthaman why because he was

1891
01:27:28,010 --> 01:27:25,500
found in irfpa urfa is a modern city but

1892
01:27:31,729 --> 01:27:28,020
it's also a very ancient city it's known

1893
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:31,739
as a city of prophets uh supposedly and

1894
01:27:34,910 --> 01:27:33,360
when I say supposedly I actually have

1895
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:34,920
looked into the this and I think there's

1896
01:27:42,110 --> 01:27:38,340
truth to it Abram or Abraham the

1897
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:42,120
patriarch of the judeo-christian and

1898
01:27:48,649 --> 01:27:44,639
Muslim religions I mean he's a patriarch

1899
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:48,659
of all three he was in urfa uh just

1900
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,840
outside of Gobekli Tepe or was any born

1901
01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:54,719
there wasn't his family from there and

1902
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,820
he raised there you go to talk about

1903
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,520
moving experiences here's another moving

1904
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:00,960
experience

1905
01:28:06,830 --> 01:28:03,360
um I mean

1906
01:28:08,330 --> 01:28:06,840
I one of the most moving experiences

1907
01:28:11,870 --> 01:28:08,340
I've had

1908
01:28:14,209 --> 01:28:11,880
maybe I don't want to say it that way

1909
01:28:16,610 --> 01:28:14,219
but you can visit and I when I take

1910
01:28:19,550 --> 01:28:16,620
people there we go to the cave of

1911
01:28:22,430 --> 01:28:19,560
Abraham right in urfa and this is the

1912
01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:22,440
traditional place where he was protected

1913
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:26,699
from you know the bad King Nimrod Etc et

1914
01:28:31,970 --> 01:28:29,280
cetera we go through the whole story but

1915
01:28:34,430 --> 01:28:31,980
you can go there it's a sacred spot you

1916
01:28:37,070 --> 01:28:34,440
go into it there's water

1917
01:28:39,770 --> 01:28:37,080
um in part of the cave Sacred Water Etc

1918
01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:39,780
and it is such a moving experience at

1919
01:28:46,729 --> 01:28:43,679
least for me to be there and it just

1920
01:28:50,209 --> 01:28:46,739
again ties a lot of things together but

1921
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:50,219
uh came back to Earth itself whenever

1922
01:28:57,290 --> 01:28:53,840
they do practical modern things like

1923
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:57,300
reconstruction projects new housing new

1924
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:00,960
development build a new uh building to

1925
01:29:05,450 --> 01:29:03,360
build a new underground parking garage

1926
01:29:08,570 --> 01:29:05,460
because you know it's a bustling City

1927
01:29:10,330 --> 01:29:08,580
what do they hit they hit this 12 000

1928
01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:10,340
year old Strata

1929
01:29:18,350 --> 01:29:14,460
with artifacts and what thought in it so

1930
01:29:21,470 --> 01:29:18,360
my point is that we have in irfa I'm

1931
01:29:23,090 --> 01:29:21,480
convinced not just a modern city not

1932
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:23,100
just a city that goes back to the

1933
01:29:26,810 --> 01:29:25,199
Crusader period And there's all kinds of

1934
01:29:29,209 --> 01:29:26,820
evidence of that it's a really

1935
01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:29,219
interesting Rich City not a city that

1936
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:31,860
just goes back to early Christianity in

1937
01:29:35,930 --> 01:29:34,080
that period not just to say that goes

1938
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:35,940
back another couple of thousand years to

1939
01:29:42,649 --> 01:29:39,120
the time of Abraham but it continues to

1940
01:29:44,810 --> 01:29:42,659
go back in time and it goes back to the

1941
01:29:47,530 --> 01:29:44,820
end of the last ice age I think it may

1942
01:29:51,470 --> 01:29:47,540
be one of the oldest continuously in

1943
01:29:53,390 --> 01:29:51,480
cities on Earth having been used and

1944
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:53,400
used and used not reused not

1945
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:56,400
rediscovered but continuously inhabs it

1946
01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:58,800
for the last twelve thousand years and

1947
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:02,280
to me that's absolutely incredible and

1948
01:30:08,330 --> 01:30:06,000
the continuity that we have there now

1949
01:30:10,189 --> 01:30:08,340
um we keep saying turkey

1950
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:10,199
this is where I'm just going to upset

1951
01:30:21,950 --> 01:30:20,270
geographical region uh we could easily

1952
01:30:25,850 --> 01:30:21,960
you know because then it gets into our

1953
01:30:27,950 --> 01:30:25,860
Armenia and ancient Armenia and uh you

1954
01:30:33,470 --> 01:30:27,960
know Anatolia

1955
01:30:36,110 --> 01:30:33,480
etc etc yeah so I'm using I'm to clarify

1956
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,120
just like I had to clarify with Egypt

1957
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:38,400
when I said bribes in Egypt I didn't

1958
01:30:44,209 --> 01:30:41,040
really mean bribes in a western sense or

1959
01:30:47,209 --> 01:30:44,219
American sense I meant fines and you

1960
01:30:49,610 --> 01:30:47,219
know it's a different society and how

1961
01:30:50,750 --> 01:30:49,620
money is exchanged and that type of

1962
01:30:53,570 --> 01:30:50,760
thing

1963
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:53,580
um when I say turkey I'm talking about

1964
01:31:03,350 --> 01:30:55,920
modern

1965
01:31:05,390 --> 01:31:03,360
and the Modern Nation that claims the

1966
01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:05,400
site at the moment because quebeculi

1967
01:31:10,430 --> 01:31:07,080
Tempe so if we're talking at the Modern

1968
01:31:13,570 --> 01:31:10,440
location quebecally Tepe is very close

1969
01:31:16,490 --> 01:31:13,580
to the modern Turkish Syrian border

1970
01:31:18,290 --> 01:31:16,500
which is another interesting thing you

1971
01:31:20,209 --> 01:31:18,300
can you can stand if you know what

1972
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:20,219
you're looking at you when you stand it

1973
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:24,080
quebecue Tepe and you look to the south

1974
01:31:30,590 --> 01:31:27,179
in the distance that's Syria you can see

1975
01:31:34,490 --> 01:31:30,600
Syria yeah yeah and uh and I've always

1976
01:31:35,930 --> 01:31:34,500
found that fascinating and today do you

1977
01:31:38,090 --> 01:31:35,940
get a Vibe I don't want to be

1978
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:38,100
controversial here but there is an

1979
01:31:43,810 --> 01:31:41,100
elephant in the room wait we don't want

1980
01:31:46,850 --> 01:31:43,820
to be controversial

1981
01:31:49,010 --> 01:31:46,860
so you've got uh like Klaus Schmidt what

1982
01:31:51,410 --> 01:31:49,020
does he do goes to Istanbul says man I

1983
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:51,420
got the stuff on the hill the the the

1984
01:31:56,750 --> 01:31:54,719
far the landowner that was there he goes

1985
01:31:58,129 --> 01:31:56,760
to Istanbul and goes to universe I think

1986
01:32:02,050 --> 01:31:58,139
there's something interesting here you

1987
01:32:06,890 --> 01:32:02,060
know and so suddenly it becomes Turkish

1988
01:32:10,850 --> 01:32:06,900
by proxy yeah Turkish it's not it and

1989
01:32:14,450 --> 01:32:10,860
and and I think that it it's okay I get

1990
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:14,460
it but you have to realize of course

1991
01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:16,800
yeah well go ahead I'm sorry but you

1992
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:19,679
can't you can't lay claim

1993
01:32:25,970 --> 01:32:22,560
to something like this that is 10 or 12

1994
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:25,980
000 years old and say you know oh you

1995
01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:28,860
know then it's Turkish it's not it's not

1996
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:31,440
Turkish if anything I don't even know

1997
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:33,120
but if you're gonna go anywhere that was

1998
01:32:38,510 --> 01:32:35,699
the Armenian Highlands 8 000 years ago

1999
01:32:41,149 --> 01:32:38,520
so you can go in that direction if you

2000
01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:41,159
wanted to but it certainly wasn't uh had

2001
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:44,340
and anything to do with uh modern day uh

2002
01:32:50,750 --> 01:32:46,800
turkey okay and and that's very similar

2003
01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:50,760
to Egypt where you have um Arabs who uh

2004
01:32:56,030 --> 01:32:53,280
came to Egypt you know thousand plus

2005
01:32:59,330 --> 01:32:56,040
years ago but they're not necessarily

2006
01:33:01,310 --> 01:32:59,340
descendant of the ancient uh Egyptians

2007
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,320
now you do have a lot of Egyptians in

2008
01:33:06,709 --> 01:33:03,360
the Egypt who are descendants of the

2009
01:33:09,290 --> 01:33:06,719
ancient Egyptians and you have people in

2010
01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:09,300
um what we'll call it modern turkey now

2011
01:33:15,550 --> 01:33:11,760
who are descendant of the population but

2012
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,560
you also have a lot that uh came in

2013
01:33:19,610 --> 01:33:17,120
times

2014
01:33:22,129 --> 01:33:19,620
Creeks Romans

2015
01:33:24,649 --> 01:33:22,139
yeah because that's one of the wonders

2016
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:24,659
of um turkey one of the really

2017
01:33:29,450 --> 01:33:27,120
interesting things about turkey you have

2018
01:33:31,729 --> 01:33:29,460
this expanse of all these different

2019
01:33:34,669 --> 01:33:31,739
Empires all these different nations all

2020
01:33:38,330 --> 01:33:34,679
these different people that went through

2021
01:33:41,050 --> 01:33:38,340
this territory and left their Mark so

2022
01:33:44,090 --> 01:33:41,060
you have some of the best

2023
01:33:45,709 --> 01:33:44,100
Greco-Roman ruins if you want to call it

2024
01:33:47,270 --> 01:33:45,719
ruins because they're not even ruins

2025
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:47,280
like Ephesus

2026
01:33:52,570 --> 01:33:50,400
um the biblical city of Ephesus in what

2027
01:33:56,090 --> 01:33:52,580
is now considered modern turkey

2028
01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:56,100
uh yeah so it gets very confusing that

2029
01:34:00,290 --> 01:33:57,600
way and

2030
01:34:04,510 --> 01:34:00,300
it's a modern nation state that claims

2031
01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:04,520
this land but yeah it doesn't it doesn't

2032
01:34:09,649 --> 01:34:06,900
it doesn't have historical Roots

2033
01:34:12,169 --> 01:34:09,659
actually comparing to Egypt Egypt I

2034
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:12,179
think has a much stronger

2035
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:15,840
sort of claim to historical

2036
01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:19,020
ancient Egypt could I put it that way

2037
01:34:25,310 --> 01:34:22,980
yeah the first dynasty yeah but what's

2038
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:25,320
interesting though is that in Turkey

2039
01:34:29,450 --> 01:34:27,960
modern turkey so just so we have our

2040
01:34:31,129 --> 01:34:29,460
terms straight

2041
01:34:33,950 --> 01:34:31,139
um you have the Tigris you have the

2042
01:34:37,729 --> 01:34:33,960
Euphrates you're in Upper Mesopotamia

2043
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:37,739
you're in northern Mesopotamia and tying

2044
01:34:42,050 --> 01:34:40,560
with a Biblical and Schmidt talked about

2045
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,060
this I remember talking to him about

2046
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:43,920
this and he wrote about this you're

2047
01:34:50,090 --> 01:34:47,040
talking about what many people interpret

2048
01:34:52,610 --> 01:34:50,100
as Eden and that gets back to

2049
01:34:54,530 --> 01:34:52,620
um even further back than Abraham in the

2050
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:54,540
city of prophets Etc

2051
01:34:59,810 --> 01:34:58,080
so you've got a lot of history there and

2052
01:35:02,629 --> 01:34:59,820
a lot of um

2053
01:35:05,149 --> 01:35:02,639
how should we say roots of um modern

2054
01:35:06,410 --> 01:35:05,159
yeah what shaped our modern civilization

2055
01:35:10,430 --> 01:35:06,420
today

2056
01:35:12,610 --> 01:35:10,440
now what do you make of because you're a

2057
01:35:15,770 --> 01:35:12,620
rock star right you deal with rocks

2058
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:15,780
there's one there's one thing that just

2059
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:18,719
sticks out for me I I understand it's

2060
01:35:24,410 --> 01:35:21,600
it's discussed probably more now than

2061
01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:24,420
ever but it's right there and in front

2062
01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:27,960
of us you go to Temple sites you can

2063
01:35:33,950 --> 01:35:30,360
even go to abados which is one of the

2064
01:35:37,729 --> 01:35:33,960
oldest structures that's the Cradle of

2065
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:37,739
everything many right armor yeah that's

2066
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:40,800
where he's buried so uh his his original

2067
01:35:46,610 --> 01:35:44,159
tomb so you could start there

2068
01:35:50,270 --> 01:35:46,620
um uh we can talk about Sumer too and

2069
01:35:53,810 --> 01:35:50,280
Mesopotamia but but ancient writing and

2070
01:35:57,290 --> 01:35:53,820
once hieroglyphics

2071
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:57,300
um hieroglyphs were developed they

2072
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:00,000
couldn't stop they put that stuff on

2073
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:03,199
everything yeah yeah well

2074
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,760
everywhere but

2075
01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:08,159
right the Great Pyramid it doesn't make

2076
01:36:12,050 --> 01:36:09,480
any sense

2077
01:36:14,810 --> 01:36:12,060
um you can see it even the temple

2078
01:36:17,450 --> 01:36:14,820
complex uh at the bent pyramid that

2079
01:36:20,930 --> 01:36:17,460
started and at The Red Pyramid still got

2080
01:36:21,790 --> 01:36:20,940
some stuff there yeah but not not at the

2081
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:21,800
uh

2082
01:36:28,129 --> 01:36:24,960
it goes back to what we were talking

2083
01:36:30,169 --> 01:36:28,139
about that when you have

2084
01:36:33,290 --> 01:36:30,179
um these older structures and I think

2085
01:36:34,970 --> 01:36:33,300
there's a core basis for them going back

2086
01:36:36,830 --> 01:36:34,980
to essentially a different cycle a

2087
01:36:39,169 --> 01:36:36,840
different what I call different cycle of

2088
01:36:41,090 --> 01:36:39,179
civilization and

2089
01:36:42,530 --> 01:36:41,100
um there was a different maybe aesthetic

2090
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:42,540
at that point

2091
01:36:48,410 --> 01:36:43,440
Etc

2092
01:36:50,750 --> 01:36:48,420
we just don't really know or were was

2093
01:36:52,850 --> 01:36:50,760
the writing limited or used in a

2094
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,860
different context that we don't have at

2095
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:54,960
this point or predated are you saying

2096
01:37:01,790 --> 01:36:58,159
predated hieroglyphs

2097
01:37:03,350 --> 01:37:01,800
yeah we we just really don't know I am

2098
01:37:04,970 --> 01:37:03,360
convinced getting back to writing I'm

2099
01:37:07,610 --> 01:37:04,980
convinced that the quebecue deputy

2100
01:37:09,649 --> 01:37:07,620
people had some form of writing I think

2101
01:37:11,689 --> 01:37:09,659
convinced based on the limited evidence

2102
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:11,699
that we have that they were not just

2103
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:13,679
scribbling on the pillars but at

2104
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:16,080
quebecue Pepe you have these beautifully

2105
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:20,639
carved pillars in Egypt for these very

2106
01:37:26,930 --> 01:37:24,000
early period material say Sphinx age

2107
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:26,940
what I call Sphinx age sometimes uh you

2108
01:37:33,229 --> 01:37:29,280
seem to have just a blank slate you just

2109
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:33,239
have huge monolithic stones that are

2110
01:37:37,550 --> 01:37:35,280
uncarved so was it just a different

2111
01:37:41,450 --> 01:37:37,560
aesthetic does that mean they did not

2112
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:41,460
have writing I served somehow doubt that

2113
01:37:48,169 --> 01:37:45,840
um in fact I would suggest that to carve

2114
01:37:49,790 --> 01:37:48,179
the Sphinx to build the Sphinx Temple to

2115
01:37:51,950 --> 01:37:49,800
build the valley Temple so these are

2116
01:37:53,450 --> 01:37:51,960
temples these are structures that they

2117
01:37:55,250 --> 01:37:53,460
they're called temples I don't know that

2118
01:37:58,610 --> 01:37:55,260
they were really temples but they're

2119
01:38:01,370 --> 01:37:58,620
structures that are contemporaneous with

2120
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:01,380
the earliest portions of the Sphinx to

2121
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:03,600
plan that to

2122
01:38:10,669 --> 01:38:07,920
um uh put it all together to

2123
01:38:14,990 --> 01:38:10,679
um you know have uh essentially plans

2124
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,000
for to have uh the proper division of

2125
01:38:19,550 --> 01:38:17,520
labor to know what you're going to do

2126
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:19,560
Etc I'm not sure how you do that without

2127
01:38:25,610 --> 01:38:23,040
writing so it's impossible look they

2128
01:38:27,470 --> 01:38:25,620
realize that they had writing whether it

2129
01:38:30,290 --> 01:38:27,480
survived or not that's another matter

2130
01:38:33,410 --> 01:38:30,300
but just you say we don't have

2131
01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:33,420
in a direct evidence of writing

2132
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:36,600
therefore they don't have writing I

2133
01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:38,639
don't necessarily buy that argument I

2134
01:38:42,590 --> 01:38:40,620
think we have a lot indirect evidence

2135
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:42,600
that what they were doing would have

2136
01:38:48,590 --> 01:38:44,880
necessitated writing

2137
01:38:51,110 --> 01:38:48,600
they documented beer recipes right like

2138
01:38:54,649 --> 01:38:51,120
right but that's a domestic

2139
01:38:59,689 --> 01:38:54,659
prescriptions yeah yeah well so um uh

2140
01:39:03,890 --> 01:38:59,699
daily live taxation fun and games uh you

2141
01:39:06,890 --> 01:39:03,900
know music all everything if down to the

2142
01:39:09,530 --> 01:39:06,900
my new details in somebody's life was

2143
01:39:12,530 --> 01:39:09,540
was documented and and we have we have

2144
01:39:14,810 --> 01:39:12,540
all of that but what we don't have is

2145
01:39:17,330 --> 01:39:14,820
how did this stuff get done it's like

2146
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:17,340
the one thing that you've been written

2147
01:39:23,629 --> 01:39:20,880
Madeline wasn't but but then do you I

2148
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:23,639
only think of um for instance Medieval

2149
01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:26,159
Times medieval guilds that type of thing

2150
01:39:32,689 --> 01:39:30,120
where um certain knowledge was not um

2151
01:39:34,729 --> 01:39:32,699
made readily available to everyone you

2152
01:39:37,550 --> 01:39:34,739
want to uh keep that whether it was

2153
01:39:39,410 --> 01:39:37,560
Trade Secrets or technological Secrets

2154
01:39:42,050 --> 01:39:39,420
uh this gets into things like the

2155
01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:42,060
Freemasons now I don't know that I want

2156
01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:44,520
to go there but one tradition is that

2157
01:39:50,990 --> 01:39:48,900
the free Mason some uh descended from uh

2158
01:39:52,430 --> 01:39:51,000
those who are building things like

2159
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:52,440
pyramids and that they would keep

2160
01:39:57,410 --> 01:39:55,440
searching uh knowledge secret it was

2161
01:39:59,629 --> 01:39:57,420
only for the privileged view so you

2162
01:40:03,169 --> 01:39:59,639
might have beer recipes and laundry

2163
01:40:05,229 --> 01:40:03,179
lists and games and daily life and

2164
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:05,239
that's great but you didn't necessarily

2165
01:40:10,370 --> 01:40:07,520
uh give everyone

2166
01:40:14,770 --> 01:40:10,380
technological Secrets I don't know I'd

2167
01:40:16,970 --> 01:40:14,780
throw that out yeah I I can't the

2168
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:16,980
the idea

2169
01:40:26,209 --> 01:40:21,360
of leveling off 36 hectares 36 football

2170
01:40:28,490 --> 01:40:26,219
pitches uh on the line Stone Hilltop and

2171
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:28,500
then laying down all of the foundation

2172
01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:31,920
Stones perfectly level perfectly Square

2173
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:34,860
to the north star or however they

2174
01:40:38,890 --> 01:40:38,159
orientated that to them the the

2175
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:38,900
um

2176
01:40:45,129 --> 01:40:41,280
orientation of the pyramids is

2177
01:40:47,090 --> 01:40:45,139
incredibly precise 1 60th of a degree so

2178
01:40:49,070 --> 01:40:47,100
doing all of that with that

2179
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:49,080
documentation or writing or planning

2180
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:51,600
ahead no it doesn't sense doesn't make

2181
01:40:57,290 --> 01:40:54,719
sense no it doesn't and and then if we

2182
01:40:58,610 --> 01:40:57,300
back off of that and I keep going back

2183
01:41:00,290 --> 01:40:58,620
to this point but I think it's so

2184
01:41:02,270 --> 01:41:00,300
fundamental

2185
01:41:04,970 --> 01:41:02,280
um the workers there

2186
01:41:07,070 --> 01:41:04,980
how they ate how they cooked or where

2187
01:41:09,950 --> 01:41:07,080
they slept all of that is documented

2188
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:09,960
it's it's all there you can go and see

2189
01:41:16,129 --> 01:41:13,199
and read the daily life but nobody talks

2190
01:41:20,410 --> 01:41:16,139
about the construction and and how it

2191
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:20,420
was it it's it's you know the key things

2192
01:41:25,550 --> 01:41:23,760
what ship it wasn't a small boat what

2193
01:41:27,490 --> 01:41:25,560
ship was bringing all of this stuff up

2194
01:41:30,410 --> 01:41:27,500
from Aswan

2195
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:30,420
where is that yeah where is that and

2196
01:41:35,570 --> 01:41:33,360
what happened to it Etc et cetera yeah

2197
01:41:40,010 --> 01:41:35,580
but think about our culture think about

2198
01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:40,020
our society uh what could happen in 12

2199
01:41:46,430 --> 01:41:42,960
000 years or five thousand years

2200
01:41:49,310 --> 01:41:46,440
Etc uh what's going to survive uh how

2201
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:49,320
many blueprints of high technology

2202
01:41:55,010 --> 01:41:51,600
versus just a bunch of how should I say

2203
01:41:59,090 --> 01:41:55,020
novels and and

2204
01:42:00,830 --> 01:41:59,100
um uh sitcoms or whatever now I know

2205
01:42:03,709 --> 01:42:00,840
um and before I let you go I'm just

2206
01:42:07,129 --> 01:42:03,719
because now that I've seen this with my

2207
01:42:11,330 --> 01:42:07,139
own eyes it just messes with me when you

2208
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:11,340
look at the Red Granite Quarry in oswan

2209
01:42:18,050 --> 01:42:13,760
which is

2210
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:18,060
huge this Quarry right okay and uh and

2211
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:21,600
you see the unfinished obelisk in there

2212
01:42:27,050 --> 01:42:24,000
it's perfectly straight

2213
01:42:31,609 --> 01:42:27,060
it's nearly smooth right they they got

2214
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:31,619
the basic shape is there and apparently

2215
01:42:36,050 --> 01:42:34,320
dolorite Stones right and you're sitting

2216
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,060
there chipping away

2217
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,880
all day long you know they're bouncing

2218
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:40,800
the stones that's the traditional view

2219
01:42:52,010 --> 01:42:48,169
what do you make of that when you when

2220
01:42:55,010 --> 01:42:52,020
you hear what they suggest it's a modern

2221
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:55,020
egyptologists the modern

2222
01:42:59,689 --> 01:42:57,960
yeah I I don't buy it I don't buy that

2223
01:43:01,310 --> 01:42:59,699
that's uh that

2224
01:43:04,490 --> 01:43:01,320
how do you think they were cutting that

2225
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,500
how do you do that I'm not I'm not sure

2226
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:06,239
how they were shaping them I don't know

2227
01:43:10,910 --> 01:43:08,699
if you saw how they in some places it

2228
01:43:14,090 --> 01:43:10,920
looks like they were scooping it um yeah

2229
01:43:16,370 --> 01:43:14,100
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh and you

2230
01:43:18,290 --> 01:43:16,380
get lines on some of them I mean they

2231
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,300
were whatever they were doing they were

2232
01:43:24,169 --> 01:43:20,639
doing it but I'm not convinced it was

2233
01:43:26,209 --> 01:43:24,179
just bouncing dolorite balls or using um

2234
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:26,219
just pounding it with uh

2235
01:43:36,649 --> 01:43:33,890
chicken bones yeah exactly I don't and I

2236
01:43:38,689 --> 01:43:36,659
mean the effort to do that and how long

2237
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,699
it would take Etc and the number of

2238
01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:40,560
people

2239
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,840
to do it the way that uh

2240
01:43:47,629 --> 01:43:44,880
you know the standard traditional

2241
01:43:49,370 --> 01:43:47,639
academics say it was done but I don't

2242
01:43:52,370 --> 01:43:49,380
have a better answer I don't know how it

2243
01:43:55,790 --> 01:43:52,380
was done how do we

2244
01:43:59,570 --> 01:43:55,800
how do we fight man I'm just gonna ask

2245
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:59,580
how do we fight this how do we when you

2246
01:44:09,790 --> 01:44:00,719
go

2247
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:09,800
hired uh tour guides from

2248
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:13,920
the you know the Egyptian uh employees

2249
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:16,560
and they've all got the same three ring

2250
01:44:22,729 --> 01:44:20,400
binder they've got the same speech lined

2251
01:44:24,649 --> 01:44:22,739
up all of them all of them I said when I

2252
01:44:26,750 --> 01:44:24,659
was watching this go down I was like oh

2253
01:44:28,669 --> 01:44:26,760
so they're all reading from the same

2254
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:28,679
book They're trained that way they're

2255
01:44:34,850 --> 01:44:32,639
trained right and I'm listening now okay

2256
01:44:36,530 --> 01:44:34,860
it's great the two the tourists are all

2257
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:36,540
sitting there paying attention and I

2258
01:44:42,109 --> 01:44:39,360
like you know it's cool but I what I

2259
01:44:44,330 --> 01:44:42,119
noticed was that they're all reading

2260
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:44,340
from the same book they're all issued

2261
01:44:51,490 --> 01:44:47,040
this they they're trained taught and

2262
01:44:55,790 --> 01:44:51,500
they go out and they repeat the dogma

2263
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:55,800
and not what not not our Guides of

2264
01:44:58,850 --> 01:44:56,639
course

2265
01:45:00,770 --> 01:44:58,860
um but nobody's gonna step outside of

2266
01:45:03,470 --> 01:45:00,780
the box are they they're staying right

2267
01:45:05,390 --> 01:45:03,480
there in their Lane they yeah and those

2268
01:45:07,790 --> 01:45:05,400
are the

2269
01:45:09,649 --> 01:45:07,800
it gets more complicated than that I

2270
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,659
think because you've got the traditional

2271
01:45:13,310 --> 01:45:11,520
guides and they're all reading from the

2272
01:45:16,010 --> 01:45:13,320
same script basically and they've all

2273
01:45:18,350 --> 01:45:16,020
been trained the same way but I'm

2274
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:18,360
finding personally that more and more

2275
01:45:24,530 --> 01:45:21,840
Egyptians on the ground Egyptian gods

2276
01:45:28,370 --> 01:45:24,540
Egyptian egyptologists are becoming more

2277
01:45:31,070 --> 01:45:28,380
open to looking at a bigger picture to

2278
01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:31,080
breaking out the dogma and I have found

2279
01:45:35,750 --> 01:45:33,480
that now over the last 30 some years

2280
01:45:37,790 --> 01:45:35,760
going back and forth to Egypt that

2281
01:45:41,810 --> 01:45:37,800
they're more open to it and I think that

2282
01:45:44,510 --> 01:45:41,820
a new generation is coming and that yes

2283
01:45:46,669 --> 01:45:44,520
you have the Egyptian tour guides who

2284
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:46,679
are just trained and literally just have

2285
01:45:52,129 --> 01:45:49,679
the script to read but then I've know

2286
01:45:54,910 --> 01:45:52,139
some of them they've gone beyond that

2287
01:45:57,470 --> 01:45:54,920
and they've become actual what I'll call

2288
01:45:59,530 --> 01:45:57,480
egyptologists where they're thinking for

2289
01:46:03,649 --> 01:45:59,540
themselves they're thinking on their own

2290
01:46:06,649 --> 01:46:03,659
they've uh really started going to these

2291
01:46:09,770 --> 01:46:06,659
sites they maybe start it is the classic

2292
01:46:12,169 --> 01:46:09,780
tour guide but they can't be held they

2293
01:46:14,450 --> 01:46:12,179
can't help but be moved and overwhelmed

2294
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,460
by these sites and I've had them

2295
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:16,560
starting to talk to me when I go there

2296
01:46:21,709 --> 01:46:19,020
and they are more and more interested I

2297
01:46:25,550 --> 01:46:21,719
found over the years in non-conventional

2298
01:46:28,490 --> 01:46:25,560
views so I have hope I have um a lot of

2299
01:46:31,250 --> 01:46:28,500
hope that we are overcoming these dogmas

2300
01:46:34,010 --> 01:46:31,260
and that this is now percolating into

2301
01:46:36,229 --> 01:46:34,020
the high highest levels of the

2302
01:46:38,810 --> 01:46:36,239
egyptologists that at least they're

2303
01:46:41,810 --> 01:46:38,820
looking at things I I can you give you a

2304
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:41,820
quick example the Sphinx and the head of

2305
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:45,360
the Sphinx 30 some years ago I talked

2306
01:46:49,370 --> 01:46:47,280
about the Sphinx and that's not the

2307
01:46:52,790 --> 01:46:49,380
original head and that's not the head of

2308
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:52,800
copper it's probably been recarved and

2309
01:46:58,729 --> 01:46:56,159
it's too small for the body and all the

2310
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:58,739
egyptologists at that time said this is

2311
01:47:04,370 --> 01:47:02,400
absolute nonsense etc etc but since then

2312
01:47:06,530 --> 01:47:04,380
more and more are saying yeah it

2313
01:47:10,729 --> 01:47:06,540
probably is not exactly the original

2314
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:10,739
head that it maybe is not copper some of

2315
01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:12,000
them are now saying maybe it was

2316
01:47:16,729 --> 01:47:14,580
recarved to look like Khufu at one point

2317
01:47:18,649 --> 01:47:16,739
which is the easy thing to say since we

2318
01:47:21,709 --> 01:47:18,659
don't know exactly what cuckoo looked

2319
01:47:23,390 --> 01:47:21,719
like except based on loyalty statue that

2320
01:47:25,490 --> 01:47:23,400
survived yeah

2321
01:47:28,030 --> 01:47:25,500
um but my point is that I think they're

2322
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:28,040
becoming more open to this they're

2323
01:47:35,209 --> 01:47:32,400
becoming more open to New Concepts uh

2324
01:47:36,830 --> 01:47:35,219
new ways of looking at things so I have

2325
01:47:40,669 --> 01:47:36,840
a lot of Hope yeah of course you still

2326
01:47:44,330 --> 01:47:40,679
got the um uh the standard guides and

2327
01:47:45,649 --> 01:47:44,340
you know they're they're partly to give

2328
01:47:48,890 --> 01:47:45,659
the um

2329
01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:48,900
standard dogma and you know sort of like

2330
01:47:52,689 --> 01:47:50,639
high school teachers I shouldn't put

2331
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:52,699
down a high school

2332
01:48:01,129 --> 01:47:57,840
no no no no no to Robert at Roberts that

2333
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:01,139
way but but people what I was trying to

2334
01:48:07,250 --> 01:48:04,320
say is people who are teaching what

2335
01:48:09,649 --> 01:48:07,260
they've been taught to teach versus

2336
01:48:13,850 --> 01:48:09,659
someone who is

2337
01:48:16,129 --> 01:48:13,860
um uh doing research and that's their

2338
01:48:18,530 --> 01:48:16,139
primary profession that's a distinction

2339
01:48:20,270 --> 01:48:18,540
I'm trying to make I I know lots of high

2340
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:20,280
school teachers

2341
01:48:25,070 --> 01:48:22,080
um and so I didn't mean that in a bad

2342
01:48:28,129 --> 01:48:25,080
way I was just in fact speaking to a

2343
01:48:31,250 --> 01:48:28,139
high school class about this because the

2344
01:48:33,649 --> 01:48:31,260
teacher there he was taught this is

2345
01:48:36,649 --> 01:48:33,659
literally true he was taught the

2346
01:48:38,930 --> 01:48:36,659
standard Dogma Etc he's been teaching

2347
01:48:41,689 --> 01:48:38,940
this but he started hearing about other

2348
01:48:45,050 --> 01:48:41,699
things he heard me speak for instance

2349
01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:45,060
etc etc and it turns out that he knows a

2350
01:48:50,270 --> 01:48:47,460
person who is actually a friend of mine

2351
01:48:54,410 --> 01:48:50,280
who somehow I I was mentioned next thing

2352
01:48:57,229 --> 01:48:54,420
you know I'm T I'm giving uh uh talk to

2353
01:48:58,669 --> 01:48:57,239
his high school class about Egypt and

2354
01:49:01,970 --> 01:48:58,679
about all the things we've been talking

2355
01:49:05,390 --> 01:49:01,980
about but my point so my point is

2356
01:49:07,310 --> 01:49:05,400
he's not a researcher he's not someone

2357
01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:07,320
that's delving into this because he has

2358
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,820
to do all the other things that a high

2359
01:49:13,550 --> 01:49:11,040
school teacher does but on the other

2360
01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:13,560
hand he's now open to this he's finding

2361
01:49:19,490 --> 01:49:17,100
this interesting he's expanding his own

2362
01:49:21,530 --> 01:49:19,500
Horizons and the horizons of his

2363
01:49:24,109 --> 01:49:21,540
students I can think of another teacher

2364
01:49:27,169 --> 01:49:24,119
I know who um teaches in the I'll call

2365
01:49:28,850 --> 01:49:27,179
it the pre-college level who she's the

2366
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:28,860
same way

2367
01:49:33,470 --> 01:49:30,719
Etc so I think

2368
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:33,480
we are making progress I I want to look

2369
01:49:40,850 --> 01:49:38,159
at the bright side of it the um right

2370
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:40,860
when

2371
01:49:49,490 --> 01:49:47,760
part of history and I'm talking from 3

2372
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:49,500
000 BC

2373
01:49:58,010 --> 01:49:54,780
to 2700 BC that 300 year period but the

2374
01:49:59,810 --> 01:49:58,020
population of Egypt at that time and

2375
01:50:00,669 --> 01:49:59,820
I've looked it depends on where you want

2376
01:50:04,729 --> 01:50:00,679
to go

2377
01:50:07,970 --> 01:50:04,739
ranges from uh 500

2378
01:50:10,250 --> 01:50:07,980
000 to just under a million in that

2379
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:10,260
three to five hundred year period yeah

2380
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:13,199
all right but most of that crazy

2381
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:15,119
construction

2382
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:19,679
um from dashure right Sakara uh the Giza

2383
01:50:24,830 --> 01:50:22,080
Plateau all of that construct all of

2384
01:50:28,129 --> 01:50:24,840
those 25 pyramids right in 100 years

2385
01:50:31,129 --> 01:50:28,139
span that's right it's a crazy amount of

2386
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:31,139
work that was done and a big chunk of

2387
01:50:36,050 --> 01:50:33,300
that population working on pyramids huh

2388
01:50:39,470 --> 01:50:36,060
it doesn't make any sense and so if you

2389
01:50:42,590 --> 01:50:39,480
take that Robert if you take that 500

2390
01:50:46,370 --> 01:50:42,600
000 and you cut it in half half are men

2391
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:46,380
right so now you've got 250 000 men how

2392
01:50:50,450 --> 01:50:48,480
many were children how many were too old

2393
01:50:53,090 --> 01:50:50,460
to work and then you cut that in half

2394
01:50:55,970 --> 01:50:53,100
and then and so you're trying to get to

2395
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:55,980
this number that they've given us which

2396
01:51:02,689 --> 01:50:58,560
is 20 000 which is probably forty

2397
01:51:05,810 --> 01:51:02,699
thousand that means every single man

2398
01:51:07,930 --> 01:51:05,820
in Egypt was working on one of these

2399
01:51:11,090 --> 01:51:07,940
projects

2400
01:51:13,129 --> 01:51:11,100
there was nobody else farming there's

2401
01:51:15,649 --> 01:51:13,139
nobody else buildings there was nobody

2402
01:51:17,689 --> 01:51:15,659
else doing anything mandatory what

2403
01:51:19,609 --> 01:51:17,699
mandatory military service the

2404
01:51:21,649 --> 01:51:19,619
equivalent of that yeah but yeah how do

2405
01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:21,659
you feed that when no one there's no one

2406
01:51:26,209 --> 01:51:24,540
to do any work otherwise right it

2407
01:51:28,609 --> 01:51:26,219
doesn't make any sense does it and you

2408
01:51:34,250 --> 01:51:28,619
and you you just look at that 300 year

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01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:34,260
period again from Aswan right from Aswan

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01:51:39,590 --> 01:51:36,000
all the way to Cairo

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01:51:41,090 --> 01:51:39,600
um uh heliopolis whatever Memphis not in

2412
01:51:44,030 --> 01:51:41,100
the same place they're not they're

2413
01:51:46,370 --> 01:51:44,040
they're all scattered along the Nile

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01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,380
allegedly

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01:51:52,370 --> 01:51:48,719
right it doesn't make any sense and and

2416
01:51:54,590 --> 01:51:52,380
it it the population doesn't support the

2417
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,600
Dogma is what I'm saying no that's

2418
01:51:59,629 --> 01:51:56,400
that's true I think that's absolutely

2419
01:52:01,729 --> 01:51:59,639
true and I think we need to it makes a

2420
01:52:04,189 --> 01:52:01,739
lot more sense if we expand our time

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01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,199
frame that these structures were not

2422
01:52:08,450 --> 01:52:06,239
built in such a compressed period of

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01:52:10,490 --> 01:52:08,460
time that some of them at least the

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01:52:13,850 --> 01:52:10,500
beginnings of them go back to a much

2425
01:52:16,729 --> 01:52:13,860
earlier period they're reusing things uh

2426
01:52:19,010 --> 01:52:16,739
some of them were packed and covered

2427
01:52:21,649 --> 01:52:19,020
over and then rediscovered again then

2428
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:21,659
expanded upon so I think this is

2429
01:52:25,970 --> 01:52:23,280
something that we have to start thinking

2430
01:52:29,090 --> 01:52:25,980
about and it makes a lot more sense man

2431
01:52:32,030 --> 01:52:29,100
I miss you man I miss you I miss Katie I

2432
01:52:35,149 --> 01:52:32,040
agree I agree well people I guess what

2433
01:52:38,930 --> 01:52:35,159
time is there we yeah we're done we have

2434
01:52:41,330 --> 01:52:38,940
spoken for 10 almost two hours yeah it

2435
01:52:43,310 --> 01:52:41,340
goes like listening hey hey you wanna

2436
01:52:44,290 --> 01:52:43,320
having said

2437
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:44,300
um

2438
01:52:49,609 --> 01:52:46,320
Robert there's a new thing that's called

2439
01:52:51,850 --> 01:52:49,619
a cell phone yeah call me and let's do

2440
01:52:54,709 --> 01:52:51,860
another just call me man

2441
01:52:57,290 --> 01:52:54,719
every month let's make a movie I always

2442
01:52:59,709 --> 01:52:57,300
make a we should make a documentary did

2443
01:53:03,109 --> 01:52:59,719
they have this back 12 000 years ago

2444
01:53:06,350 --> 01:53:03,119
they found one of gobekly tappy and see

2445
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:06,360
you know what we here's we lost huh it's

2446
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,320
it's on pillar number 43. there you go

2447
01:53:15,169 --> 01:53:12,000
um we didn't know we didn't get into

2448
01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:15,179
some of that though uh I am fascinated

2449
01:53:21,950 --> 01:53:18,480
with the Zodiac aspect of not only

2450
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:21,960
Gobekli Tepe but it goes to dundera yeah

2451
01:53:28,609 --> 01:53:25,260
yeah there you have a incredible zodiac

2452
01:53:30,830 --> 01:53:28,619
um and uh uh I mean this yeah I'm sure

2453
01:53:33,590 --> 01:53:30,840
you you saw it I mean the beautiful

2454
01:53:36,169 --> 01:53:33,600
ceilings with all the stars and the

2455
01:53:38,750 --> 01:53:36,179
constellations Etc I mean that's

2456
01:53:41,689 --> 01:53:38,760
incredible and so you have it there and

2457
01:53:43,729 --> 01:53:41,699
then 7 000 years before they were

2458
01:53:48,850 --> 01:53:43,739
putting it on T pillars I'd go backwards

2459
01:53:52,669 --> 01:53:51,590
how can you avoid the sky I mean you

2460
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:52,679
know it

2461
01:53:58,609 --> 01:53:55,440
I mean this seriously now for ancient

2462
01:54:02,030 --> 01:53:58,619
people the sky was so important so many

2463
01:54:02,810 --> 01:54:02,040
modern people don't look at the sky

2464
01:54:04,970 --> 01:54:02,820
um

2465
01:54:06,649 --> 01:54:04,980
they just don't it's something that's

2466
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:06,659
passed us by

2467
01:54:14,090 --> 01:54:10,880
uh yeah they're looking at cell phones

2468
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:14,100
I'll see you here uh the parapod

2469
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,080
festival the links for the peripod

2470
01:54:20,350 --> 01:54:18,239
festival are below we've got them

2471
01:54:23,090 --> 01:54:20,360
throughout social media

2472
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:23,100
is going to be there I cannot wait I get

2473
01:54:28,189 --> 01:54:26,639
to introduce you once again and uh it's

2474
01:54:30,350 --> 01:54:28,199
gonna be so great to see you we'll break

2475
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,360
some bright and hang out all weekend and

2476
01:54:34,450 --> 01:54:32,159
I hope people will go to my website have

2477
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:34,460
you got a link to that

2478
01:54:40,189 --> 01:54:37,199
and if people want to see some of the

2479
01:54:42,290 --> 01:54:40,199
sites turkey in particular I'm doing a

2480
01:54:43,390 --> 01:54:42,300
trip there in August so

2481
01:54:45,770 --> 01:54:43,400
um

2482
01:54:48,590 --> 01:54:45,780
and all these other sites they can come

2483
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:48,600
and join me and I'll be doing a trip in

2484
01:54:54,129 --> 01:54:51,119
May and June to each of the people want

2485
01:54:59,870 --> 01:54:58,010
I know I know I know a pair pod is is

2486
01:55:03,350 --> 01:54:59,880
going to be amazing but I'm going to see

2487
01:55:06,050 --> 01:55:03,360
if I can squeeze Robert shock and Katie

2488
01:55:08,930 --> 01:55:06,060
and Gobekli Tepe into my schedule uh for

2489
01:55:12,109 --> 01:55:08,940
2023. yes that would be great I can't

2490
01:55:15,050 --> 01:55:12,119
think of anything better I can't

2491
01:55:16,910 --> 01:55:15,060
Robert behave and be well my friend I'll

2492
01:55:19,850 --> 01:55:16,920
see you in a few weeks right here give

2493
01:55:22,970 --> 01:55:19,860
my best to Katie and she's a

2494
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:22,980
troublemaker keep her in line and I'll

2495
01:55:27,070 --> 01:55:24,719
see you the troublemakers are good

2496
01:55:29,330 --> 01:55:27,080
that's how we advance

2497
01:55:31,129 --> 01:55:29,340
Dr Robert shock thank you

2498
01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:31,139
robertshock.com the links are below

2499
01:55:35,209 --> 01:55:33,179
throughout social media he's got to

2500
01:55:37,310 --> 01:55:35,219
teach a class in the morning I will say

2501
01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:37,320
good night to you good sir thank you so

2502
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,260
much so my thanks it's been great it's

2503
01:55:44,810 --> 01:55:42,480
always good always the best thank you so

2504
01:55:48,109 --> 01:55:44,820
much Robert and again the links are

2505
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:48,119
below the links are below for parapod

2506
01:55:54,530 --> 01:55:51,119
and uh that's going down April 1st March

2507
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:54,540
31st and April 1st right here in

2508
01:56:01,129 --> 01:55:57,840
Southern California in Valencia Santa

2509
01:56:03,590 --> 01:56:01,139
Clarita it's all right there what a

2510
01:56:06,169 --> 01:56:03,600
great show tonight thank you so much and

2511
01:56:08,450 --> 01:56:06,179
we just went bumper to bumper pull the

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01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:08,460
pole Fade to Black produced by Hill Jay

2513
01:56:13,550 --> 01:56:11,280
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2514
01:56:16,609 --> 01:56:13,560
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2515
01:56:18,649 --> 01:56:16,619
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2516
01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:18,659
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2517
01:56:23,570 --> 01:56:20,100
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2518
01:56:25,310 --> 01:56:23,580
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2519
01:56:27,530 --> 01:56:25,320
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2520
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,540
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2521
01:56:31,129 --> 01:56:29,280
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2522
01:56:32,570 --> 01:56:31,139
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2523
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:32,580
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2524
01:56:34,910 --> 01:56:34,080
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2525
01:56:36,830 --> 01:56:34,920
Church

2526
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:36,840
oh man what's going on tomorrow night

2527
01:56:41,090 --> 01:56:38,960
Billy Carson is here

2528
01:56:42,770 --> 01:56:41,100
Forbidden Knowledge it's Forbidden

2529
01:56:44,990 --> 01:56:42,780
Knowledge week so I'll see everybody

2530
01:56:47,629 --> 01:56:45,000
tomorrow night with Billy Carson until

2531
01:56:50,670 --> 01:56:47,639
then I want everybody to be safe

2532
01:57:09,010 --> 01:56:50,680
go back Lee tappy